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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/06 00:53:23
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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HQ- Overlord, warscythe, MSS, CCB (205 pts)
Royal court (220) : 4x harbringer of destruction, 1 solar pulse
1x harbringer of despair, 1 veil of darkness
Troops : 5x immortals (85pts) - harbringer of despair
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
Fast attack : 8x scarabs (120 pts)
110 pts left over, what to do with them? Would a ghost ark be a good idea? If not, what else?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/06 03:21:41
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
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While the proliferation of str8 ap2 lanceteks is nice, none of these units will last in any sort of assault, they're too small imo.
Maybe some wraiths, tomb blades, or yeah, i guess a ghost arc could work.
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Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/06 03:55:56
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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Bane Thrall
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Bond wrote:
HQ- Overlord, warscythe, MSS, CCB (205 pts)
Royal court (220) : 4x harbringer of destruction, 1 solar pulse
1x harbringer of despair, 1 veil of darkness
Troops : 5x immortals (85pts) - harbringer of despair
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
Fast attack : 8x scarabs (120 pts)
110 pts left over, what to do with them? Would a ghost ark be a good idea? If not, what else?
taking a quick look at your list you have a lot of points sunk into your HQ over 1/5 of your army is in one model. i personally try to take Hqs at around 150 more and they get giant bullseyes on their heads. less and they dont really do much beside fill the mandatory HQ slot.
that and a lot also packed into that court, .... idk you might want remove 2 harbringers of destruction.
here is my suggestion.
put the four necron squads of 5 into 2 squads. one with 10 and the other 9 (the harbringers are included in this number so it would be 8 and 9 without)
then give them both ghost arks. cant stress how hard it is to get a necron squad of an objective when there is a ghost ark with them giving them back models plus 2/3 times you are playing objectives
also one of the arcks can carry your overlord so he aint foot slogging it.
i would personally think about finding some anti-tank to add to your list cause you cant relay on guasse to kill vehicles and scarabs just get shot to death real fast.
maybe drop scarabs and possibly 5 imoratls and the harbringer of despair to get some anti-tank
as for assault...if you are getting assaulted you are doing it wrong.
if you find you are getting assaulted a lot try letting one squad keep its vehicle and break the others open. most people will then rush the one still in a transport forward and then they have effectively given you 2 free killpoints/ units you dont have to worry about. and the game
just some thoughts.
Best of luck to you
-Marmaduke
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/06 12:30:07
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Seriously guys? The overlord is not footslogging he is on a CCB...
Also why should I give a heck about assault when my units are 6 models and worth 100 points, if I lose one the assaulting units just gets shot to death on the next turn, and I also have the scarabs to tarpit or even win the fight as Ive seen them do..
the double ghost ark and 10 man units is interesting but I feel it takes away some punch from the list...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
"i would personally think about finding some anti-tank to add to your list cause you cant relay on guasse to kill vehicles and scarabs just get shot to death real fast.
maybe drop scarabs and possibly 5 imoratls and the harbringer of despair to get some anti-tank "
LOL seriously? So scarabs and lancetechs arent good enough AT? + a CCB?
Why do you comment on lists if you dont actually read them, I mean...thanks, but no thanks.
However you may have a point about assault even though I think the shooting should do it, and thats also what the immortal+veil squad is for, but I'll have to playtest to know about that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/06 18:40:03
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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If you arent overly attached to having the 5 troops choices it might be an idea to drop one of the warrior squads with their Tek to pick up 2 annihilation barges (or full squads of tomb blades). This way your squads do what necrons do best, marching up and laying down a tonne of fire, and the mobile weapons platforms thin out enemy units before they come into charge range (tesla destructor annihilates hordes)
This way you have some highly mobile shooting to harass the enemy, remain out of assault range and be nipping around the battlefield.
Also by fielding the 2 extra barges the enemies AT wont all sink into your overlords barge, giving him apple opportunity to sweep over any of their heavy armour. Personally AT seems to be one thing you have an abundance of atm
without my codex on me atm it'd leave you something like:
HQ- Overlord, warscythe, MSS, CCB (205 pts)
Royal court (185) : 3x harbringer of destruction, 1 solar pulse
1x harbringer of despair, 1 veil of darkness
Troops : 5x immortals (85pts) - harbringer of despair
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
Fast attack : 8x scarabs (120 pts)
Heavy Support:
2 x Anniliation Barge w/ Tesla Destructor, Tesla Cannon (180)
(or trade barges for some tomb blades with either tesla or particle weaponry for anti-horde)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/06 19:38:53
Subject: Re:Necron 1000 points
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Irked Necron Immortal
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110 pts left over, what to do with them? Would a ghost ark be a good idea? If not, what else?
I'd bump the immortals up a bit so you get a bit more bang when they teleport about the place, and I know this sounds crazy but give the cryptek a phase shifter - if you only get one low ap weapon directed at them from say a tactical squad take it on the 'tek so he has a chance to shrug it off and if not he's ever living anyway
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/06 19:39:24
Strike Force Serpentine: 3000
Kabal of the Annihilated Souls: 3000
Red Corsairs: 2500
Knights of Titan: 2000
Waagh Wazzdakka 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/06 19:49:36
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
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An Annihilation Barge would be an easy pickup, use the spare points left over from that to beef up the immortals.
If you wanted to go whole-hog with the idea, you could drop one warrior squad, and pick up another annihilation barge, and additional immortals.
@ Caranthir, phase shifters are lord/overlord wargear, crypteks can't take them.
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Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
MajorStoffer wrote:
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/06 19:57:10
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
Where people Live Free, or Die
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Melcavuk wrote: it might be an idea to drop one of the warrior squads with their Tek to pick up 2 annihilation barges
I think this is a good suggestion. It would provide mobile anti-horde punch while relieving your CCB of the trouble of being the only vehicle in the army.
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Menaphite Dynasty Necrons - 6000
Karak Hirn Dwarfs - 2500
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/06 20:09:34
Subject: Re:Necron 1000 points
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Irked Necron Immortal
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@ Caranthir, phase shifters are lord/overlord wargear, crypteks can't take them.
oops I meant timesplinter thingy instead
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Strike Force Serpentine: 3000
Kabal of the Annihilated Souls: 3000
Red Corsairs: 2500
Knights of Titan: 2000
Waagh Wazzdakka 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/07 01:59:44
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Melcavuk wrote:If you arent overly attached to having the 5 troops choices it might be an idea to drop one of the warrior squads with their Tek to pick up 2 annihilation barges (or full squads of tomb blades). This way your squads do what necrons do best, marching up and laying down a tonne of fire, and the mobile weapons platforms thin out enemy units before they come into charge range (tesla destructor annihilates hordes)
This way you have some highly mobile shooting to harass the enemy, remain out of assault range and be nipping around the battlefield.
Also by fielding the 2 extra barges the enemies AT wont all sink into your overlords barge, giving him apple opportunity to sweep over any of their heavy armour. Personally AT seems to be one thing you have an abundance of atm
without my codex on me atm it'd leave you something like:
HQ- Overlord, warscythe, MSS, CCB (205 pts)
Royal court (185) : 3x harbringer of destruction, 1 solar pulse
1x harbringer of despair, 1 veil of darkness
Troops : 5x immortals (85pts) - harbringer of despair
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
5x warriors (65 pts) - harbringer of destruction
Fast attack : 8x scarabs (120 pts)
Heavy Support:
2 x Anniliation Barge w/ Tesla Destructor, Tesla Cannon (180)
(or trade barges for some tomb blades with either tesla or particle weaponry for anti-horde)
Yes I believe this list is better than mine, I was thinking about one barge but a second one instead of one warrior squad might be a good idea. Might drop the immortals instead in this case though (even though the veiltek might be handy when it comes to late objective seizing). If I choose to keep the immortals and drop a squad of warriors I will look into beefing up the immortals though.
Thanks for the comment guys, very helpful Automatically Appended Next Post: And concerning the cryptek I dont have a cryptek of eternity in the list so I cant take the gear giving him the invulnerable save.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/07 14:39:52
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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I'd be tempted to replace the Immortals with Deathmarks (so you can make a Deathstar-killer kamikaze squad with the HoDespair).
But, yes, agreed that the updated list is looking much better.
(... if only you had Wraiths...)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/07 17:15:46
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Yeah was thinking about deathmarks but need the heads for the crypteks lol, and even then I dunno 5 seems kinda weak cant really lean upon rending with 10 shots, whereas str5 ap 4 is pretty reliable.
And about the wraiths, 2 things : first of all Im trying to build a list with models that actually are available, and maybe it would be nice to build lists that DONT need to rely upon wraiths. The codex is codex : necrons, not codex : wraiths.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/08 11:05:22
Subject: Necron 1000 points
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Yes, but it SHOULD be Codex: Wraiths.
(you all know it's the truth)
;P
But in regards to Deathmarks: you only really use them to take out that one nasty enemy unit you don't want to deal with, and after that, they're expendable. If you use them properly, they're EXCELLENT.
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