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Triarch Stalker - when it hits then all subsequent shots against the target count as twin linked that turn

how will this work with cover. my understanding per brb pg "if the save is passed the hit is disregarded and no roll is made on the vehicle damage chart"

so, if a Stalker takes a shot on a vehicle in cover or behind a kff does it

A) still count as hitting and all successive hits count as twin linked

B) disregard the hit means it never happened so when they roll to glance or pen you take cover saves, if all cover saves are successful then it was never hit, so no twin linked from shots

C) separate glances, pens and lack to pens and roll cover against all shots even those who failed to glance or penetrate since they hit but failed to do anything they still hit and take cover saves against all of the above

I think it'd be C as the stalker wording said when it hits, but one of the guys I play with thinks its A it was still hit and only the damage portion is disregarded...

thoughts?

A. The "hit" referenced in the cover rules is the penetrating/glancing hit, not the to-hit roll success.

rigeld2 wrote:A. The "hit" referenced in the cover rules is the penetrating/glancing hit, not the to-hit roll success.

Ditto, A

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in C as well, could you take a shot at re-writing it?

basically I'm asking in C if you'd take a cover vs the shot even if it didn't glance or pen.

assume 2 hits, one penetrates one fials to dmg would you roll cover vs pen to avoid dmg and roll cover vs the hit that did nothing to see if it still counts as a hit.

my understanding of cover is that it means the shot hit somethign other than the intended target and is thus disregarded. so a rhino in the picture hit by a missl launcher but halfway behind the building the cover save means they hit the wall not the vehicle so would it make other shots twin linked in this case as it never truely hit the target

G00fySmiley wrote:basically I'm asking in C if you'd take a cover vs the shot even if it didn't glance or pen.

assume 2 hits, one penetrates one fials to dmg would you roll cover vs pen to avoid dmg and roll cover vs the hit that did nothing to see if it still counts as a hit.

my understanding of cover is that it means the shot hit somethign other than the intended target and is thus disregarded. so a rhino in the picture hit by a missl launcher but halfway behind the building the cover save means they hit the wall not the vehicle so would it make other shots twin linked in this case as it never truely hit the target

Fluffwise, that's correct - the shot hits something else or misses entirely.
Ruleswuse, that's not - a hit is a hit and will either glance, pen, or not penetrate with cover saves working against glance/pens.

You can only take a cover save against glancing or penetrating hits, same as you only take infantry cover saves against wounds

G00fySmiley wrote:basically I'm asking in C if you'd take a cover vs the shot even if it didn't glance or pen.

assume 2 hits, one penetrates one fials to dmg would you roll cover vs pen to avoid dmg and roll cover vs the hit that did nothing to see if it still counts as a hit.

my understanding of cover is that it means the shot hit somethign other than the intended target and is thus disregarded. so a rhino in the picture hit by a missl launcher but halfway behind the building the cover save means they hit the wall not the vehicle so would it make other shots twin linked in this case as it never truely hit the target

Gotcha now, thought that was what you meant before. And as other posters have said, fluff/logic wise, you're correct, but as the rules go, you only roll for cover saves after the roll to determine if it was a glance or a pen.

so basically even if my battewagon is never hit due to cover saves the disregard only applied to the glance and pen results it still counts as hit and is tiwn linked against it

I still read disregard the hti as the hit never happened but guess i'm the minority wonder if I can get INAT ruling

Roll to hit, if you hit you satisfy the rules for the Stalker.

Rules-wise you need to treat cover as any other save, you still 'hit', it's just fluff-wise the hit never happened.

If you want to justify it with background/fluff, then assume the cover took the power out of the shot, slowing it enough to do no damage (but still hitting).