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Hi, I've skimmed through the books at the FLGS and was wondering is there any army that can field a primarly artillery list? And I assume there is no "team" aspect to the game at this time?

What game are we talking about here again?

I mean I suppose if we're running a Roman army filled with Scorpions and Catapults....

I assume you really mean FoW right? Well the big 4 Armies all have access to a lot of artillery depending on their list

Most infantry companies have at least 1 mortar platoon available. Some then can tack on a heavy mortar platoon. Then theres big guns. Some German lists can have 1-2 artillery batteries (usually one is heavy) along with rocket launchers of some type, or multiple mortars. Russians have a 12 gun battery and then a 8 gun heavy battery and if you still got points theres their rocket artillery. British can have two 8 gun batteries (one of which can have heavier guns). Americans tend to have at least 3 slots for artillery batteries (one can have heavier guns like british), and some lists have a lighter cannon platoon.

Germans tend to not have any fancy artillery rules expect some odd ones I think for SS. British and Russians can concentrate firepower on certain areas. Americans are all around and each battery is good on their own or can combine when needed

If it is FOW we are talking about here, there is a US Ranger Battalion out of the Turning Tide book for LW that gives you access to a fair bit of artillery. Would be hella pricey points wise but it gives you the option of fielding 3 separate artillery batteries with some fairly hard hitting options. There is also the 1st and 29th Infantry Divisions from the same book with access to similar optons plus a cannon platoon.

The British have the best artillery rules and the most guns you can get in a single army, just use a lorried rifle company.

That enables you to get 16 25pdrs, 16 BL 5.5" guns, an AOP, and enough infantry to defend those positions for a long time.

However, it's important to note that even the best, most concentrated artillery isn't going to replace boots on the ground.

Amerikan 2nd Infantry division,their is even a free PDF on the Flames of war site. http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/Documents/Briefings/2nd-Infantry-Division.pdf

Vertrucio wrote:The British have the best artillery rules and the most guns you can get in a single army, just use a lorried rifle company.

That enables you to get 16 25pdrs, 16 BL 5.5" guns, an AOP, and enough infantry to defend those positions for a long time.

However, it's important to note that even the best, most concentrated artillery isn't going to replace boots on the ground.

Hmm which book is this? I dont remember any british armies that can have 4 artillery units.

The German 21. Panzer Divison French Funny list can take a good amount of indirect fire.

Mat

Yeah I meant FoW sorry about that.

Thanks for the info all! Lotz of food for thought here!


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Okay more questions. How comparable is FoW price and painting complexity vs 40k on average?

I see that alot of the tanks and what not are smaller and the soliders less detailed, so does this lend itself to quicker fielding of you new toys even for poor painter like myself?

chuckachu wrote:
Okay more questions. How comparable is FoW price and painting complexity vs 40k on average?

I see that alot of the tanks and what not are smaller and the soliders less detailed, so does this lend itself to quicker fielding of you new toys even for poor painter like myself?

It depends. For someone like me (i.e., not that great of a painter), I can put out decent looking tanks and infantry with some paint and brown/black washes. The main thing you're going for when putting multiple infantry on a base is more of an overall 'diorama', as well as historical accuracy.

That's not to say that you can't paint mind-blowingly good looking models in 15mm, or even smaller.

Whoops, I meant 8 and 8 of 25pdrs and 5.5s for 16 guns total, not 32 total.

I was wondering about that, but have not used anything but mortars in my CDN list for sometime. Thought I was missing something, lol.

Mat

infinite_array wrote:

It depends. For someone like me (i.e., not that great of a painter), I can put out decent looking tanks and infantry with some paint and brown/black washes. The main thing you're going for when putting multiple infantry on a base is more of an overall 'diorama', as well as historical accuracy.

I'm the same, for all 15mm is really rather small I actually prefer painting my FOW minis compared to say my Warmachine or 40K stuff. Was blown away after painting up my first infantry team, washing them with Badab black and basing them. Going back to a larger scale has been a bit of a shock and I keep finding myself picking up my untainted FOW minis pretty quickly.

I find that I can paint a base of 15mm infantry (4-5 individual figues) is about 2/3rds of the time that it takes me to paint a 28mm figure. WWII infantry are generally easy to paint if you avoid SS and all their pea dot camo craziness.

Tanks are straightforward as well,;mostly its a base coat of reflective green, a green wash, a drybursh of reflective green and then detailing. Germans take longer with their damn camo though.

Herman Goring Division in Italy can field a huge amount of Artillery. It is not an easy list for beginners though. It is Recce and Arty and thats it.