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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant





Youngstown, Ohio

Hello all,
I just picked up my BA army and I about to start the painting process. I was going to prime them black and then run blood red through my airbrush to base them. With all the talk of Mephiston Red being so good and Blood Red (whatever its new name is) changing to a layer paint, should I reconsider my painting plan? For those that have experience with the new layer paints, would they work with my original plan?

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Longtime Dakkanaut




UK

Would be more sensible to start a new army with the new paints incase theres any differences between new and old shades.
   
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant





Youngstown, Ohio

Skippy wrote:Would be more sensible to start a new army with the new paints incase theres any differences between new and old shades.


That is what I was thinking. I am curious if the layer paints would be sufficient if ran through an airbrush to base the mini or do folks really recommend Mephiston Red as a base before any layer colors are applied? My goal is to paint bright and then dip for shading.

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Longtime Dakkanaut




UK

If you want a bright red, have you considered a white or grey undercoat?
   
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From what I have seen, there is little to no difference between old colors and new ones- they just have new names.
For instance, I went down to the LGS yesterday because I was in need of a replacement pot of Shadow Grey, only to discover that Fenris Grey had replaced it. Picked up the Fenris Grey, and its the... exact same color.
Same goes for Administratum Grey (Codex Grey), and Skrag Brown (Vermin Fur/Brown).
   
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant





Youngstown, Ohio

I have considered a lighter undercoat, but a plastic safe flat white primer runs about the same cost as GW primer. I can find satin whites, but it seems like satin primer does not take paint as well as my flat black one. :-(

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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge





Boston, MA

I wouldn't airbrush a light red over black. It'll look bad. If you want white primer, just go to a hardware store and pick up a can of Krylon white spray primer. It'll run you about 6 bucks, and it's great stuff.

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If you're using an airbrush, use the base paint, rather than the layer equivalent. The bases cover black well, but a white primer is still the better way to go if you want bright reds. The new book does describe Blood Angels at let a little bit, and their example is over black.

The references that I've seen suggest Mephiston Red as the base, Carroburg Crimson Shade, and layers Evil Suns Scarlet, and Wild Rider red...
   
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Brainy Zoanthrope




Wisconsin

I'm still kinda confused about the Layer 1 Layer 2 stuff. So I base Mephiston Red, then Shade, then Layer Scarlet and Then layer again with Wild Rider?

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