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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 19:18:51
Subject: Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Snivelling Workbot
Gypsy Life
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I keep seeing lists with Skavenslaves as a big part of the army. So for fun, when I should be working, I went to the GW website and was seeing about costs. This is what led me to this post, and my question:
I see Skavenslaves listed on GW for (US) $15 for 4 models. When I see Skavenslaves listed in peoples armies they list 50 or 100 of them (in the 2000+ army lists).
Is there some box set I am not seeing on the GW site? At those prices that's a crazy/costly army. I am sure I am missing something, so if you could please enlighten me I would greatly appreciate it.
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Selym wrote:So far, an interesting collection of unreliable data. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 19:20:15
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 19:28:01
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Snivelling Workbot
Gypsy Life
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I am an idiot. I must have looked at that page 100 times in the last hour. I did not see, underneath where it lists the clanrats statline... there's the statline for the Skavenslaves. Ugh...
Thanks CthuluIsSpy for not making fun of my oversight ;p and taking the time to post a response.
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Selym wrote:So far, an interesting collection of unreliable data. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 19:31:26
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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No problem
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What I have
~4100
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 19:39:57
Subject: Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Powerful Irongut
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You can use pretty much any models you want for the slaves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 20:01:59
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Snivelling Workbot
Gypsy Life
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@ marielle
Would that include having an army of Skavenslaves represented by goblins? so long as they have no armor and 1 hand weapon?
... and I see people referring to a "Chieftain", looking on the GW site I don't see a model called by that name, is there a common chieftain or what does it refer to?
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Selym wrote:So far, an interesting collection of unreliable data. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 20:08:43
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Skaven Chieftain? This fella I guess http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440084a&prodId=prod1160065a And yes, Goblins could be used as slaves, as well as humans and elves. EDIT : Found a model with a Chieftain stat entry. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440084a&prodId=prod1040019 No idea why they didn't put the stats on the finecast version
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/10 20:10:42
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 20:13:50
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Powerful Irongut
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3rksum wrote:@ marielle
Would that include having an army of Skavenslaves represented by goblins? so long as they have no armor and 1 hand weapon?
... and I see people referring to a "Chieftain", looking on the GW site I don't see a model called by that name, is there a common chieftain or what does it refer to?
They are slaves, you can whatever you want - Ogres, Goblins, Skeletons, Skaven - a mixture of everything - whatever.
All that really matters is that the unit can function as the correct troop type.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 20:15:54
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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marielle wrote:3rksum wrote:@ marielle
Would that include having an army of Skavenslaves represented by goblins? so long as they have no armor and 1 hand weapon?
... and I see people referring to a "Chieftain", looking on the GW site I don't see a model called by that name, is there a common chieftain or what does it refer to?
They are slaves, you can whatever you want - Ogres, Goblins, Skeletons, Skaven - a mixture of everything - whatever.
All that really matters is that the unit can function as the correct troop type.
Really? I guess that makes sense...but won't the T4 from the Ogres get in the way?
For fluffy reasons I think goblins, humans and elves would make the best slaves, since
a) They have a similar stat line
b) They are relatively abundant and easy to capture.
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What I have
~4100
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 20:30:33
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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the ogres would be used as a fluffy unit filler. They look cool but do nothing to the statline.
So 1 ogre would equal 4 slaves for visual and fluff purposes. There isn't an actual ogre in the unit.
Slaves are your chance to make a really cool looking unit.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 20:33:54
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Snivelling Workbot
Gypsy Life
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Wow that makes the Skavenslaves a pretty exciting option! The option to field captured enemies, painting them with whip marks or something... very cool.
And yes, I think that Warlord is in fact the Chieftain everyone is talking about in their army lists. Many thanks for that as well.
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Selym wrote:So far, an interesting collection of unreliable data. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 20:35:47
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Most of the combat orientated character choices are a single model that can be either the Lord or Hero version.
GW doesn't sell an Ogre Bruiser model but they do sell a Tyrant(which can be both)
The Warlord is actually a Warlord/Chieftain model.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/10 20:52:09
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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3rksum wrote:Wow that makes the Skavenslaves a pretty exciting option! The option to field captured enemies, painting them with whip marks or something... very cool.
And yes, I think that Warlord is in fact the Chieftain everyone is talking about in their army lists. Many thanks for that as well.
You do realize that you can basically do this with any option in any book, yes? You dont have to use the correct GW model for anything technically... hell you dont need to use any GW models at all theoretically, so long as your conversions are suitable, justifiable, and fluffy to the theme you're trying to portray (and also WYSIWYG, thats a big one).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/12 08:59:45
Subject: Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Follow my sig and you'll see how I did my slaves and clanrats.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/14 02:43:00
Subject: Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What I did is the IoB set has 40 clanrats and about 20 have no/little armor (just rags) those are my slaves. Also the clan rats box has maybe like 10 clanrats without armor as well plus they dont have the shields embedded in them like in the IoB ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/23 20:14:21
Subject: Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Disbeliever of the Greater Good
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keisukekun wrote:What I did is the IoB set has 40 clanrats and about 20 have no/little armor (just rags) those are my slaves. Also the clan rats box has maybe like 10 clanrats without armor as well plus they dont have the shields embedded in them like in the IoB ones.
This. In each Clanrat box, half of them are in armour and half in rags. Two boxes gets you 20 clanrats and 20 slaves. Not exactly a cheap option but hey, you need lots of rats in your army anyway! Just paint up he raggy ones to make them look like dirty slaves and you're laughing.
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3500 Skaven
3500 High Elf
2250 Tau
1500 Orks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/02 08:28:03
Subject: Re:Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Brooding Night Goblin
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I would use a mixture of empire flagellants (you get 10 in each box) and clanrats in rags, not cheap but works
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3000 points of WAAGH! Grimkiller
1350 points of Grey Knights 3-1-3
Started a templar army...
Skaven: 1000 points 1-0-0
Goblins: 1400-ish
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 19:09:17
Subject: Skaven question - Skavenslaves?
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Crazed Gorger
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Protoclown wrote:keisukekun wrote:What I did is the IoB set has 40 clanrats and about 20 have no/little armor (just rags) those are my slaves. Also the clan rats box has maybe like 10 clanrats without armor as well plus they dont have the shields embedded in them like in the IoB ones.
This. In each Clanrat box, half of them are in armour and half in rags. Two boxes gets you 20 clanrats and 20 slaves. Not exactly a cheap option but hey, you need lots of rats in your army anyway! Just paint up he raggy ones to make them look like dirty slaves and you're laughing.
I've seen people just mix them up. It looks rather ragtag when you have an assorted array of guys mixed together.
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