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Hardened Veteran Guardsman




Maryland

Here's the scenario:

Hive tyrant involved in assualt with a strike squad, but he is not in base to base (within 2, but short on the 6 charge). There is squad of gaunts assaulting the same unit.

Combat stays locked at end of turn.

My opp sends a paladin squad that multi-charges both my units that results in a basically a C shape around my units (gaunts & tyrant). Due to initiative changes (and there were a lot). Hive tyrant dies before all his paladins attack (paladins in B2B with the lash tyrant so were I1). They are not in BTB w/my gaunts (bottom of the C) and 2inches away from a paladin model that is in B2B (top of the C).

My question is can the guys that were in B2B with the tyrant still make their attacks on gaunts? Bearing in mind that they are more than 2 inches out and not in BTB. Part of the squad was in BTB with the gaunts from the beginning of the assault (top of the C).

First Asault

g s s s s s s
g g g g g g
T

Palandins come in

p g s s s s s s
p g g g g g g
p p p T p
p p p p

Tyrant dies (60mm base gone looks more like this)

p g s s s s s s
p g g g g g g
p
p
p p p p

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/13 13:10:43


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3rd bullet point in little BRB, and FAQ, says you can only make attacks agains the unit you are in btb with. If you are in btb with 2 units, then you can attack either or both units as you see fit
   
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Maryland

It also says models (in a unit) that are outside of 2 inches of a model in B2B cannot make attacks. Even if part of the unit is in B2B with the enemy unit.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/04/13 13:20:43


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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

#1: The Hive tyrant could not have been involved in assualt with a strike squad, because he is not in base to base and he was short on the 6 inch charge. (The Hive Tyrant should not have moved).

#2: If any Paladin model is 2 inches away from a paladin model that is in B2B he can attack. If any Paladin model is more than 2 inches away from a paladin model that is in B2B then they can not attack.

#3:
nosferatu1001 wrote:3rd bullet point in little BRB, and FAQ, says you can only make attacks agains the unit you are in btb with. If you are in btb with 2 units, then you can attack either or both units as you see fit
Nos has this one 100% correct.

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/04/13 15:39:15


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Hardened Veteran Guardsman




Maryland

Cool. Thanks for the help. I didn't thing Nos was wrong, his response just didn't provide an answer to the 2 inch question like your #2 did (I giggled when I wrote that).

I think I may have I screwed up the tyrant then. So then I have a hypothetical...if an enemy unit is completely surronded by one unit preventing any other friendly units from making B2B, no other friendly units can join the assault until space has cleared to allow B2B with the enemy?

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Exactly correct - you MUSt make btb, if the model is surrounded you dont get to do that.
   
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Chicago, IL

jb50c wrote:I think I may have I screwed up the tyrant then. So then I have a hypothetical...if an enemy unit is completely surronded by one unit preventing any other friendly units from making B2B, no other friendly units can join the assault until space has cleared to allow B2B with the enemy?

That is correct.

To assault a unit you must make base contact with them, if you can not make it into B2B then you can not assault that unit. (You can not even make an assault move towards that unit if you can not reach b2b).

So if you have a Hive Tyrant =T

And some Paladins = P

and they are engaged like this:

PPP
PTP
PPP

Then no other unit may assault the tyrant, since there is no room to move into B2B with him.

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