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I was just wondering what everyones tactics 4 there ork burna boyz. I just made my first squad of them and was gonna use them in a battlewagon cause i heard if you put atleast ten in a wagon and run it up 2 the enemy line that it would reck havoc. So has anyone used this tactic or knows a better way 2 use your burna boyz?

Put them in a BW, and drive very close to the enemy.

You can place the template just once, from anywhere on the BW's hull, and multiply the hits by the nmber of burnaboyz, while they stay safe inside the vehicle.

You can get obscene numbers of hits from a full squad of 15 doing this (Add a KFF big mek with burna for another template and more durability for the vehicle )

Assuming your template hits 5 guys, you'd be dealing out 75 hits (80 with the big mek firing also).

It's possible to get more than 5 guys under the template too, but that's a decent working number

Nice sounds like one of those stratigies that piss people l off lol but im defeanitly tryin it

Expect anyone who's ever been a victim of it to target and obliterate that BW and it's contents, but yes, it's a fun one

That burna boyz wagon will be the first thing anyone familiar with the trick shoots, and anyone unfamiliar with it will be shooting the gak out of it next game for sure.

One more suggestion? Add a bosspole to that big mek. Because when the Burna Boyz (inevitably) lose their ride, you can bail out the burnaz and use them as a frightening assault unit. Burnaz can be used as power weapons in close combat. So it's the equivelant to 15 boyz (barring casualties sustained if their ride explodes) dishing out 45 power weapon attacks a turn. Keep the Big Mek back, out of the fight, and use him to make sure their morale doesn't fall apart when they dip below 11 models.

ya i would get a mek with a pole but i gotta wait till i get another set cause i used the mek 4 my loota part of the kit and these guys are just sluggas from black reach set that i chopped up and turned into burnas

The burna wagon is a good 'shoot me' target especially if you give it the defensive upgrades then skimp on your other wagon's upgrades so your opponent is forced to shoot the super threatening but well defended wagon while the bare bone transports get clear sailing.

I don't think I've ever seen burnas work outside a wagon. Is there any other way to use them? Are the meks ever a good option?

I like to have a big mek with KFF and bosspole with my burnas 12-15 in BW. I personally like my big mek with a pk and attack squig (this gives extra attack and if the bw gets disabled and they are on foot, it gives the burnas more punch in cc. Yes you can add another burna, but I think the pk and attack squig gives you more punch in cc and if you give your bw a boarding plank, the big mek can swing at a vehicle it encounters too. You need that boss pole or they will run. try to keep them in their ride. I typically run 3 bw one with burnas, one with 20 shoota boyz and one with ghazy and nobz squad with painboy counting as troops and then put a 12 man squad in a truck and then a squad of lootas for shooting. I always try to shield my burnas to try to keep them in their ride as long as possible. Anyone who has taken a big hit from burnas will be gunning for them, but this gives other squads a chance to do some arse kicking... good luck man.

I've done a KFF mek and 11 Burnas in a trukk before.

Downside is the trukk is fragile (and KFF only goes so far)

Upside is that that trukk can get up in a units face a lot faster.

If you run one with a BW on the same list people always seem to read Burnas and BW on your list, but not pay attention to the fact the Burnas aren't in the BW...at least for me.. It's cause a few nasty shocks

Don't bother giving regular meks to a burna or Loota unit, as a whole. It's not generally worth it.

i guess this is a fairly common startegy lol but im still gonna 4 it with my speed freak army

Actinium wrote:The burna wagon is a good 'shoot me' target especially if you give it the defensive upgrades then skimp on your other wagon's upgrades so your opponent is forced to shoot the super threatening but well defended wagon while the bare bone transports get clear sailing.

What defensive upgrades? 'ard case to make the strategy which makes it dangerous in the first place impossible?
The true 'trick' is paint "shoot me" on all your wagons.
Wagon A is carrying burnaz, if you don't shoot them, they are going to incinerate something.
Wagon B is carrying nobz, if you don't shoot them, they are going to crush a few units.
Wagon C is carrying Thrakka and boyz, if you don't shoot them, they are going to make a mess out of whatever they hit.
Wagon D is carrying the KFF and boyz, they aren't as dangerous as the rest, but if I don't shoot them, it's really difficult to kill more than one battlewagon due to that force field.

I don't think I've ever seen burnas work outside a wagon. Is there any other way to use them? Are the meks ever a good option?

They suffer from the same problem as any ork elite without a transport. They are more dangerous than boyz, cost more than boyz, but die like boyz to shooting.
The mek is probably the worst model in the codex. You can either get a model that is more likely to kill itself than any model or a worse weapon than anyone in the mob already has.

Ascalam wrote:Put them in a BW, and drive very close to the enemy.

You can place the template just once, from anywhere on the BW's hull, and multiply the hits by the nmber of burnaboyz, while they stay safe inside the vehicle.

You can get obscene numbers of hits from a full squad of 15 doing this (Add a KFF big mek with burna for another template and more durability for the vehicle )

Assuming your template hits 5 guys, you'd be dealing out 75 hits (80 with the big mek firing also).

It's possible to get more than 5 guys under the template too, but that's a decent working number

Pretty much this and what others have said. Expect this to be target #1. If you get it close, you will roast and toast.

Remember, your BW can only move 6" and burn.

give the wagon rpj, make sure to move 7 inches, throw out your burna template and if somethign charges the BW it hits on 6's unelss it is better at hitting vehicles (such as eldar swooping hawks who always plant haywire grenades on a 4+ )

burna wagons are pretty rough btu if your opponent has wseen them before they will be a high priority target

At this years Colonial I went with:
Warboss, HA, Cybork, Big Choppa. Combi Scorcha. Boss Pole. Attack Squig.
12 Burnas.
In a Heavy Choice Battlewagon, Rolla, Plates, Riggers, Red Paint 2 Big Shootas.

It worked nicely. I didn't have the model for a 2nd Big Mek in my Army, but I thought the Warboss with higher initiative could really help in combat, coupled with his volume of attacks and the Big Choppa.

My initial reason was the Big Red Target idea as above to draw fire from my Lootas. I tried to have it always sitting in the KFF bubble. A few games I even got to flame out of the wagon. The Combi Scorcha was nice as it added another flame template. Down the line I may drop the Warboss to a 2nd Big Mek. That way there is an extra KFF bubble to keep the wagon not tethered to my combat line.

Opponents generally dumped shots into my Killa Kans or Lootas. The Wagon didn't eat too much fire that it could not take. I only had a single Wagon, but talking to opponents most suggested I may want to consider multiples as it just seems to be the Orky way.

Unless you want a Shokk attack gun, I do not see the point of 2 Big Meks in a BW list.. Big Meks are not that tough and only 2 wounds. I always try to take a warboss, ghazzy or less likely Mad Doc all of which are far tougher than a big mek and they allow special things that big meks don't. I almost never leave home without one, but never 2. Cheers

The Big Meks are there for KFF coverage, not hand to hand combat Their contribution is adding durability and repair to the wagons.

The KFF bubble only goes out so far, and having two really extends the number of vehicles you can cover.

If you don't roll that way, that's cool, but most of my BW or KK/DD lists have 2 KFF Bmeks.

Ascalam wrote:The Big Meks are there for KFF coverage, not hand to hand combat Their contribution is adding durability and repair to the wagons.

The KFF bubble only goes out so far, and having two really extends the number of vehicles you can cover.

If you don't roll that way, that's cool, but most of my BW or KK/DD lists have 2 KFF Bmeks.

seconded

my big mek only gets out of the wagon when its blown up or wrecked, and even then I try to get him ino another wagon asap

I usuallyy only run one, btu i would run 2 if i didn't love my warboss on a bike so much

Keep in mind that the burna wagon does not have to be used offensively. Anyone charging your battelwagons must assume their unit dead afterwards, even deathstars like nobz, eldar or necron councils and TWC will not survive getting templated after being clumped up from charging a bw.

I just want to add...don't be a fool like me. Last time I ran my burnas (15), instead of using the templates on a unit of 10 grey hunters (where I could have hit at least 5 per template) I thought "hey, these power weapons would rock! CHARGE!"...I had 2 boyz left after the grey hunter's attacks :(

Afterward, I math hammered out that if I would have used the templates correctly, I would have won that fight. That would have given a huge swing in my favor for that game, as it turned out I was tabled, with that being a huge factor

5*15 = 75 hits...37.5 wounds....on average whole squad is deaded.

To be fair, grey hunters are one of the worst things to charge with burnaz

Jidmah wrote:To be fair, grey hunters are one of the worst things to charge with burnaz

Yeah...it was a supreme lapse in judgement, one I doubt I'll make again.