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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/15 15:31:30
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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It just occurred to me how damaging these little brutes could be in a game of apocalypse.
If they were able to get close to the titan all hell would break loose for the Imperium player.
Is there any protection for Titans against the entrophic strike ability? Or is it just like any other vehicle?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/15 15:34:40
Subject: Re:Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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Scarabs eat all on the titan...and it dies...pray for a nuclear meltdown!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/15 16:55:45
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Quite many Necron abilities are just completely broken in apocalypse enviroment:
Scarabs can kill titans and superheavies very easily,
Writhing Worldscape / Temporal snares combo,
Imhoteks Lord of The Storm etc.
For example, the firepower of Lighting attacks from Lord of the Storm pretty much equal one GK Psyfleman dreadnought for every 6 hostile units on table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 03:56:49
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
New York, USA
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Lol necrons: Where is your baneblade now, mortals?
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"Surrender and Die."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 04:10:14
Subject: Re:Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch
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o_O I never thought about that. That is so far broken it is not even funny.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 04:15:07
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Ah bwa hahahahaha!
ah... this makes me want to play some 40k...  which I can't do for a while
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 04:15:54
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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For Entropic Strike, you could try and house-rule that Super Heavies, Titans, and Garantuan Creatures are immune to Entropic Strike, or only affected on a 6 (but even then, scarabs can generate so many hits that it's a negligible change). But then again, Apocalypse has huge numbers of blast and template weapons that are usually Strength: D or S6+, so it could be argued that the guy on the recieving end of a swarm large enough to down a titan absolutely deserves it.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/16 04:16:20
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 05:03:25
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Considering that the titan can easily kill a scarab squad easily with just one of its basic 7" blasts causing both double wounds and instant death.
Heavies without a 5" blast is a bit more hosed though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 14:27:31
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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lol that would be chaos for a imperial tank army
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 14:48:49
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Sounds funny until you realise the scarabs have to get there first. If you somewhere ignored the giant horde of scarabs then you're not a very good general...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 15:18:42
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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The Hive Mind
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Juvieus Kaine wrote:Sounds funny until you realise the scarabs have to get there first. If you somewhere ignored the giant horde of scarabs then you're not a very good general...
If by "giant" you mean "10 or so"...
10 scarabs is more than enough to reduce a vehicle to scrap in one round.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 15:44:57
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Hold on, What about the "Endless Swarm" stratagem, or is that a Nids' thing? EDIT: Also, Spyders. Getting them up close will be easier, and the fact that they are an MC will demolish most things that assault them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 15:48:17
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They aren't immune to ID though, so a Strength: D blast that manages to cover spyders and scarabs removes several threats at once when you factor in that neither unit gets RP.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 16:00:41
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Assuming the pie is A) on target and B) is large enough to cover the whole lot of them. Also, does S: D auto-wound as well as auto-pen?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 16:06:59
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It doesn't have to cover all of them; for a Strength: D weapon to remove a scarab swarm of 10 bases it only needs to cover 5, because it auto-wounds, inflicts instant death, and because swarms are vulnerable to blasts, and so take 2 ID wounds for every 1 inflicted; for the Spyder, it just needs to touch it to nuke it thanks again to auto-wounding, inflicting ID and the spyder not having an invul. Using the Eldar D weapons from IA11, Pulsars are Heavy 2 Large Blasts, the Cobra's D-Cannon is Ord. 1 10" blast, Phantom Pulsars are Heavy 4 Large Blast, the Phantom D-Cannon is Ord. 1 10" blast. It'd be difficult to miss anything with those; scattering a maximum of 8" (Average of 3-4") unless the D-Cannons are fired indirectly. That's even if they're targeting Scarabs; Night Spinners do the exact same thing for far less, only allowing cover from area terrain and requiring 2s to wound.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2012/04/16 16:13:29
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 16:31:05
Subject: Canoptek Scarabs vs... Emperor Titan?
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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so the answer to my question of "is S: D an auto-wound" would be a yes then?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/16 16:33:53
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes.
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
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"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation |
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