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as the title says i'm starting my own wargames company called Dark Empire. our two games (which i have been working on for 12 years) are steel force alliance and universe at war, both are linked together. at the moment i do not have a site but come july i will. to give you a rough estemate on prices, you currently pay 35 USD for 10 tactical marines from GW well for the same price you'll be getting 40 of the basic troops for the Terran Empire in my game. and MODS if this is in the wrong forum please move. the current races in Steel Force Alliance are: The Terran Empire, Terran Coilition States, Terran Confederation of Planets, Terran Republic, Infiniten Star Empire, Vixu monarchy, Immortals, Technocrates, Principality of Nixclux, Ditarian Theocracy, Pact alliance, and the Knights Guild. you will need a 10 sided die and a 100 sided die to play. more details to come

At the moment, you have nothing to show. It would have been better to make this thread in July when you will have a website, as a bunch of words and promises of unseen yet cheap models are meaningless.

I'm guessing your planning on doing plastics to get to that price, are you going to use Rendra or one of the various chinese places?

Good choice on the D10 though, D10s are fantastic.. but what sort of mechanics are planning on using? Any quick start rules?

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:as the title says i'm starting my own wargames company called Dark Empire. our two games (which i have been working on for 12 years) are steel force alliance and universe at war, both are linked together. at the moment i do not have a site but come july i will. to give you a rough estemate on prices, you currently pay 35 USD for 10 tactical marines from GW well for the same price you'll be getting 40 of the basic troops for the Terran Empire in my game. and MODS if this is in the wrong forum please move. the current races in Steel Force Alliance are: The Terran Empire, Terran Coilition States, Terran Confederation of Planets, Terran Republic, Infiniten Star Empire, Vixu monarchy, Immortals, Technocrates, Principality of Nixclux, Ditarian Theocracy, Pact alliance, and the Knights Guild. you will need a 10 sided die and a 100 sided die to play. more details to come

Also, when representing your company it would be prudent to use proper grammar and punctuation. As of right now I have absolutely no interest in a game produced by any person who doesn't have enough grasp of the English language to capitalize proper nouns or the first word of a sentence.

You've been working on this since you were ten?

(Your Dakka profile age says you're 22)

However, others like myself couldn't give a rats ass about your grammar and would be much more excited to see the games and models that you're bringing out, that being your companies focus.

Looking forward to seeing what you have due out; how many of these races will be released on 'launch day'? I can't imagine that it'd be cheap to launch all of them at the same time! Are you planning on taking pre-orders and manufacturing to order?

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:...you currently pay 35 USD for 10 tactical marines from GW well for the same price you'll be getting 40 of the basic troops for the Terran Empire in my game.

While that certainly sounds interesting, it doesn't mean a whole lot without pictures of the minis and some sort of idea of how many miniatures are needed to play. Price is only one factor in the decision to buy or not.

and MODS if this is in the wrong forum please move.

Not the wrong place, just probably the wrong time if you don't actually have anything concrete to show off yet. People talk about starting games or miniatures ranges all the time... Nobody is going to pay much attention until you start presenting miniatures, concept sketches, background material... something that they can sink their teeth into beyond a list of factions that doesn't actually mean anything without some sort of context.

I would recommend putting together a slightly more informative release with a background synopsis and some concept sketches if you want people to sit up and pay attention. And if you're going to do your own PR, maybe spend a little more time on grammar and formatting... Looking professional is essential if you want people to take you seriously.

In a agreement with Lordhat. I have nothing against you but I do not sense an air of professionalism here. Plus Cyporiean is a little correct in that all you have is words.

Do you have anything at all besides that? Sketches? 3D Renders? Anything?

Ben to the rescue!

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:As the title says, I'm starting my own wargames company called Dark Empire. Our two games (which I have been working on for 12 years) are Steel Force Alliance and Universe At War, both are linked together. At the moment I do not have a site, but come July I will.
To give you a rough estimate on prices, you currently pay 35 USD for 10 tactical marines from GW well for the same price you'll be getting 40 of the basic troops for the Terran Empire in my game. And MODS if this is in the wrong forum please move.
The current races in Steel Force Alliance are: The Terran Empire, Terran Coalition States, Terran Confederation of Planets, Terran Republic, Infinite Star Empire, Vixu Monarchy, Immortals, Technocrats, Principality of Nixclux, Ditarian Theocracy, Pact Alliance, and the Knights Guild. You will need a 10 sided die and a 100 sided die to play. More details to come

I offer my services as proofreader for all future publications, too.

insaniak wrote:

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:...you currently pay 35 USD for 10 tactical marines from GW well for the same price you'll be getting 40 of the basic troops for the Terran Empire in my game.

While that certainly sounds interesting, it doesn't mean a whole lot without pictures of the minis and some sort of idea of how many miniatures are needed to play. Price is only one factor in the decision to buy or not.

and MODS if this is in the wrong forum please move.

Not the wrong place, just probably the wrong time if you don't actually have anything concrete to show off yet. People talk about starting games or miniatures ranges all the time... Nobody is going to pay much attention until you start presenting miniatures, concept sketches, background material... something that they can sink their teeth into beyond a list of factions that doesn't actually mean anything without some sort of context.

I would recommend putting together a slightly more informative release with a background synopsis and some concept sketches if you want people to sit up and pay attention. And if you're going to do your own PR, maybe spend a little more time on grammar and formatting... Looking professional is essential if you want people to take you seriously.

Actually, i have concept sketches and base rules laid out. I was just waiting for a few posts here first. rules for infantry and calvery are as follows; M (movement), A (accuracy), MS (melee skill), S (speed how fast the unit can fight in close combat), ST (strength) T (toughness), ES (evasion save), AS (armor save), ATT (attacks in close combat). Vehicles chart; AR (armor, front, side, rear, top), S (speed), A (accuracy). Flyer chart; AR (armor, front, side, rear, top, bottom), FS (flight speed), A (accuracy), AT (altitude). Psychic chart; PP (psychic power), PS (psychic shielding). Infantry types; Infantry, tracked infantry, amphibious infantry, jump infantry, multilimbed infantry. Vehicle types; tracked light, tracked, tracked heavy, grav light, grav, grav heavy, walker (walkers add in MS, ST, and ATT). Weapon chart: P (power), PV (penetrating value), R (range), Am (accuracy modifier) and A (ammo). Close Quarters weapon chart; R (range) and Pm (power modifier). Here is also concept sketch of the Terran Empire Steel Guard Mark 0 armor . @ kitch102 i'm making them to order. @ Medium of Death yes i have been working on this since i was 10

Be careful, Blizzards popular RTS game Starcraft also uses the name "Terran" for it's human based military faction, not sure if they have copyright on it (Most likely not) but if you ever get big you might catch some flak over it.

If Bethesda attempted to sue Mojang over the similar names over their two games (Scrolls and The Elder Scrolls)(They lost by the way) you might have a small possibility of getting a similar treatment.

Those aren't rules, those are stats.

Hire a proper artist.


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LordTyphus wrote:Be careful, Blizzards popular RTS game Starcraft also uses the name "Terran" for it's human based military faction, not sure if they have copyright on it (Most likely not) but if you ever get big you might catch some flak over it.

If Bethesda attempted to sue Mojang over the similar names over their two games (Scrolls and The Elder Scrolls)(They lost by the way) you might have a small possibility of getting a similar treatment.

Terran is the general sci-fi name for an earthling, from Terra another name for Earth.

Cyporiean wrote:Those aren't rules, those are stats.

Hire a proper artist.


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LordTyphus wrote:Be careful, Blizzards popular RTS game Starcraft also uses the name "Terran" for it's human based military faction, not sure if they have copyright on it (Most likely not) but if you ever get big you might catch some flak over it.

If Bethesda attempted to sue Mojang over the similar names over their two games (Scrolls and The Elder Scrolls)(They lost by the way) you might have a small possibility of getting a similar treatment.

Terran is the general sci-fi name for an earthling, from Terra another name for Earth.

actually they are rules for the most part but my concept art has much improved see the Mark 1 armor for example:

Erhm....yeah.....

I suggest getting things a bit more "together" and do a proper presentation when you have something to actually present.

Right now, you have a bunch of people who might get a negative first (and lasting) impression.

Steelmage99 wrote:Erhm....yeah.....

I suggest getting things a bit more "together" and do a proper presentation when you have something to actually present.

Right now, you have a bunch of people who might get a negative first (and lasting) impression.

i agree, that is why i was hoping to wait till the test models were made before showing anything of the models

No they are stats, just like Weapon Skill, Might, and Strength.

As Steelmage99 said, you really need to go back and work on a proper presentation, right now you have a bunch of meaningless text and art that looks like a high schooler's doodles.

Get a proper artist, type up your rules in an easily readable format, and have someone else look over them for grammar/clarity. There are a number of game designers on Dakka, and they are all a great crowd of folks, and we are generally willing to help new people and give advise.

Still not getting a sense of professionalism here. Not trying to be Mr. Negative here but these look a bit like high school doodling. Generally if you're trying to design something, a clean and solid concept art is needed for a starting base. For example from a forum that is focused on making Team Fortress 2 models here was a sketch for some items



Everything is well designed and recognizable for the purposes of 3D modeling and etc

Cyporiean wrote:No they are stats, just like Weapon Skill, Might, and Strength.

As Steelmage99 said, you really need to go back and work on a proper presentation, right now you have a bunch of meaningless text and art that looks like a high schooler's doodles.

Get a proper artist, type up your rules in an easily readable format, and have someone else look over them for grammar/clarity. There are a number of game designers on Dakka, and they are all a great crowd of folks, and we are generally willing to help new people and give advise.

my good artist is stuck in Louisiana at the moment, he's a marine and my brother. but for the moment they are my concept sketches which my sculptor is useing

Seriously, this:

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:Actually, i have concept sketches and base rules laid out. I was just waiting for a few posts here first. rules for infantry and calvery are as follows; M (movement), A (accuracy), MS (melee skill), S (speed how fast the unit can fight in close combat), ST (strength) T (toughness), ES (evasion save), AS (armor save), ATT (attacks in close combat). Vehicles chart; AR (armor, front, side, rear, top), S (speed), A (accuracy). Flyer chart; AR (armor, front, side, rear, top, bottom), FS (flight speed), A (accuracy), AT (altitude). Psychic chart; PP (psychic power), PS (psychic shielding). Infantry types; Infantry, tracked infantry, amphibious infantry, jump infantry, multilimbed infantry. Vehicle types; tracked light, tracked, tracked heavy, grav light, grav, grav heavy, walker (walkers add in MS, ST, and ATT). Weapon chart: P (power), PV (penetrating value), R (range), Am (accuracy modifier) and A (ammo). Close Quarters weapon chart; R (range) and Pm (power modifier). Here is also concept sketch of the Terran Empire Steel Guard Mark 0 armor

...does nothing to suggest that you can present a legible and coherent set of rules.

Please spend a little more time formatting your posts into something intelligible. Aside from presenting a more professional appearance for your game, putting some effort into grammar and punctuation is required by the forum rules out of consideration for the people who are going to try to read your posts.

What is with DARKNESS and TT gaming?

Im going to also make my own....

Fluffy bunnies Race....
Pretty sparkly Ponies...
Tyranical Turtles....
Space Marines... (Yeah I know but people get wood for Space Marines its a pure win situation to add them)

It all takes place in a exotic island location with lots of sun. Everyone gets along most of the time... But when the sides go to war you play it on the TT...

Movement Phase, Hug Phase and Kisses Phase....

Coming soon!

insaniak wrote:
Please spend a little more time formatting your posts into something intelligible. Aside from presenting a more professional appearance for your game, putting some effort into grammar and punctuation is required by the forum rules out of consideration for the people who are going to try to read your posts.

never have, never will. i quite like how i speak and type, so not even god could get me to change. as to the site it will be interactive, but as for costs of units i haven't figured that much out yet. the game is in pretty much a beta stage at the moment. background i have a few things worked out for that but not everything. as to the 'stats' they are the rules which all models follow (because i refuse to go the GW way and give USR to everyone and everything)

Milisim wrote:What is with DARKNESS and TT gaming?

The same thing thats with having Humans, Orcs, and Elves in everything. A lack of originality...

Milisim wrote:
Im going to also make my own....

Fluffy bunnies Race....
Pretty sparkly Ponies...
Tyranical Turtles....
Space Marines... (Yeah I know but people get wood for Space Marines its a pure win situation to add them)

It all takes place in a exotic island location with lots of sun. Everyone gets along most of the time... But when the sides go to war you play it on the TT...

Movement Phase, Hug Phase and Kisses Phase....

Coming soon!

At least its fairly different from most of the games out there..

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:never have, never will. i quite like how i speak and type, so not even god could get me to change

Then I would recommend that you review Dakka's Rules (which you agreed to follow when you signed up an account to post on the site) and put some thought into whether or not Dakka is really the place for you.

We're done here.