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2012/04/16 01:36:10
Subject: Need help designing a 1000 point list for a first timer.
So I'm making Red Hunters, but I think I'm going to use the Blood Angels book as it seems to be superior to the vanilla marines book. I've never played a game of 40k before so I don't know what works and what doesn't.
I know I want a librarian and at least 5 sternguard. I'd also prefer to have at least 1 predator with an Autocannon as I love the look of it.
So can anyone help me design a 1k list and if you have time a 2k list(2k seems to be the average sized game locally).
"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
2012/04/16 02:27:30
Subject: Need help designing a 1000 point list for a first timer.
Do you want the autocannon predator and the sternguard both in the 1k list and the 2k list? Or would it be okay if they were only both in the 2k list, and only one of them was in the 1k list?
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- A sergeant in motion outranks an officer who doesn't know what the is going on.
- An ordnance specialist at a flat run outranks everybody.
- I'm not Jesus, but I can turn water into Kool-Aid.
2012/04/16 02:29:21
Subject: Need help designing a 1000 point list for a first timer.
I'd like both in the 1k if possible as well as the 2k list.
"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
0049/04/30 02:38:21
Subject: Need help designing a 1000 point list for a first timer.
Why don't you first write down a list (or a rough outline of one), then come back and post it for critique. Take the time to look through the codex and figure out what you would want to take.
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2012/04/16 02:45:29
Subject: Need help designing a 1000 point list for a first timer.
"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
2012/04/16 03:25:13
Subject: Need help designing a 1000 point list for a first timer.
Librarian rides with the Sternguard in the Razorback and pops out to "shoot" with Smite. It was either Smite or Blood Lance, and I figured that'd be kind of overkill what with 4 combi-meltas in the squad. Fire 2 of them per turn, unless there's an HQ that has to die NOW, in which case, fire off all 4 meltas at it (if it's Eternal Warrior - otherwise, just fire 2).
Scout squad babysits the homefield objective, rest of the army shoots the gak out of things.
Now for the 2k points list, building off this one:
Spoiler:
HQ:
Librarian (Storm Bolter, Smite, Shield of Sanguinius)
(103 points)
The Librarian got a storm bolter just in case there's an Eldar or 'nid player on the board to force psychic tests on 3d6. That's brutal even for Mephiston, let alone ye olde 2 wounde Librarian. Still, rides with the Sternguard and occasionally gets out of the metal box to "shoot" things (or Smite, actually). You might want a second librarian for more Shield of Sanguinius coverage - in that case, the libby is the same exact cost as the scout squad, so they can be dropped in/dropped out. Just figured that since it sounds like you're building this army, you'd much rather have the same units in each list, wherever possible.
The scout squad babysits the home field objective while the rest of the list shoots the gak out of things, only with roughly twice the shootiness as before.
Does this help some? I know it's not quite as varied as the guideline list you posted, but lists that combine mech with infantry might look good on paper, but actually perform rather poorly.
Edit: added spoiler tags to break up the monster Wall 'o Text.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/16 03:27:54
DT:70-S+++G++MB-IPw40k93#+++D++A+++/wWD001R+++T(T)DM+ 10k 5k
- A sergeant in motion outranks an officer who doesn't know what the is going on.
- An ordnance specialist at a flat run outranks everybody.
- I'm not Jesus, but I can turn water into Kool-Aid.
2012/04/16 04:06:38
Subject: Need help designing a 1000 point list for a first timer.
Question: how does one go about getting the razorback weapons you listed. GW and FW don't offer them as far as I can tell.
"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
2012/04/16 09:03:16
Subject: Need help designing a 1000 point list for a first timer.
You know, that's a good question. I just checked and can't find them anywhere either - you might want to check eBay, or just convert them. Next time I go to my FLGS, I'll ask our resident model-keeper if he has any, and where he found them if he does.
Until then, just run counts-as?
DT:70-S+++G++MB-IPw40k93#+++D++A+++/wWD001R+++T(T)DM+ 10k 5k
- A sergeant in motion outranks an officer who doesn't know what the is going on.
- An ordnance specialist at a flat run outranks everybody.
- I'm not Jesus, but I can turn water into Kool-Aid.
10k 
5k
is going on.
