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Greetings All,

So I've heard conflicting reports, some posts claiming one thing, others claiming another. With the difference in dates, changes, etc, I am wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of a clear cut explanation to the Chaos Dreadnought's Crazed Rule.

On a 1, I'm hearing people say that it must pivot on it's spot to the closest visible unit. It seems as though people are now saying this means the closest visible unit, means the closest unit in a 45 degree arc in front of it, correct? If this is the case, how do you best utilize the dreadnought? Pivot him so that he is facing towards a side where your troops aren't, with the target he is going to shoot at just barely within his 45 degree arc, so that you don't mistakenly move, or get moved, in front of his 45 degree zone? Seems as though as long as you use a little foresight, this can work in your favor. Any clarification welcome.

For a 6, the chaos dreadnought moves a full 6 inches towards the enemy, then it gains fleet so it rolls a d6, and moves another set amount towards the enemy. Then if the enemy is within 6 inches, it will assault. This is correct? So the movement of move, and fleet is done regardless, and the assault is only if an enemy ends up within 6 inches after this is done.

"On a 1, I'm hearing people say that it must pivot on it's spot to the closest visible unit. It seems as though people are now saying this means the closest visible unit, means the closest unit in a 45 degree arc in front of it, correct? If this is the case, how do you best utilize the dreadnought? Pivot him so that he is facing towards a side where your troops aren't, with the target he is going to shoot at just barely within his 45 degree arc, so that you don't mistakenly move, or get moved, in front of his 45 degree zone?"

It MUST pivot towards the closest unit and then it MUST fire all of it's weapons twice.

"For a 6, the chaos dreadnought moves a full 6 inches towards the enemy, then it gains fleet so it rolls a d6, and moves another set amount towards the enemy. Then if the enemy is within 6 inches, it will assault. This is correct? So the movement of move, and fleet is done regardless, and the assault is only if an enemy ends up within 6 inches after this is done."

Yes, you move the full 6, then go fleet in the shooting phase, then assault if you can.

This is all right out of the dex man, read it for the specifics.

Q: When working out which targets are visible to a
Chaos Dreadnought suffering from a Fire Frenzy result,
are you limited to those units within the 45 degree line
of sight of its weapons? (p40)
A: Yes.

Does not need to pivot to aim, it chooses targets within each of its weapons 45 degree arcs.

Gotcha, yup I see that in the FAQ now, so really to use the Dreadnought most efficiently, if you are using an autocannon/heavy flamer dreadnought, how best should you position him? I would say you want the enemy to be near the edges of the 45 degree weapon arc so you do not have any units moving into that field, but that seems as though it would increase the likelihood of getting a back shot. If you keep him pointing straight at the enemy, then it's quite easy for a troop to move within that 45 degree arc.

You could consider a Missile Launcher on your Dreadnaught if you are concerned with shooting youself. That way as long as you keep a Rhino close by, if you have to shoot something you shoot your Bolter & Missile Launcher into that. For the Missile Launcher you declare a Frag shot. That way you would not be able to hurt the Rhino with the chosen weapons strength values being below Strength 5, as long as your not shooting into Rear Armor.

Ya I run my two dreads facing and base to base with one another to avoid killing my army.

cgage00 wrote:Ya I run my two dreads facing and base to base with one another to avoid killing my army.

You don't have to.

Determine LOS, then pivot towards closest target. LOS is a 45 degree cone from the weapons of the Dread. Just don't have friendly units in front of it and you're fine.

Ixidor13 wrote:
It MUST pivot towards the closest unit and then it MUST fire all of it's weapons twice.


This is all right out of the dex man, read it for the specifics.

don't misquote the codex! the closest VISABLE unit! you are leaving out an EXTREMELY important word in the ruling, and then telling others to read their codices for specifics?

just dude, just