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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 10:29:31
Subject: Disembarking a unit, moving the tank, moving the unit.
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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This was easily overlooked by me as a player once, until my opponent pointed it out to me. Disembarking is part of a unit's movement, so if you disembark a unit before moving its transport , you must conclude any additional movement that unit has before you may move the transport itself. This is commonly over looked by players who a) disembark with squad. b)move transport out of way. c) move squad into previous position of transport.
Obviously wrong, but commonly done. (I did it!  ) Best practice to always conclude one unit's movement/actions before moving onto another for the phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 11:52:54
Subject: Re:Disembarking a unit, moving the tank, moving the unit.
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Fairly simple fix to this, I'd say, is what me and my friends do.
Unless the transport is open-topped, just pivot the vehicle appropriately for the unit inside to get out, whether that's 180 degrees or less. Then, move that unit away wherever needed and sequentially the transport. Maybe more pivoting, so the better AVs are to the fore.
I'm fairly certain that pivoting does not count towards the vehicle's movement part of the phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 12:18:22
Subject: Re:Disembarking a unit, moving the tank, moving the unit.
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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Gorandius wrote:Fairly simple fix to this, I'd say, is what me and my friends do.
Unless the transport is open-topped, just pivot the vehicle appropriately for the unit inside to get out, whether that's 180 degrees or less. Then, move that unit away wherever needed and sequentially the transport. Maybe more pivoting, so the better AVs are to the fore.
I'm fairly certain that pivoting does not count towards the vehicle's movement part of the phase.
Can't be done.
Pivoting alone doesn't count as movement, but you're only given permission to pivot during a model's movement. Plus, if a transport pivots, then it does count as having moved for purposes of disembarking troops, so they wouldn't be able to move any further (nor launch an assault, for that matter).
I'm away from my rulebooks at the moment, so hopefully someone will be able to provide page refs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 12:27:55
Subject: Disembarking a unit, moving the tank, moving the unit.
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Cheexsta is correct in both counts.
First one is obvious (models may only move when you're moving them and you can only move model once per movement phase) and the rule reference for second is BRB pg 67, "Disembarking", first bullet point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 17:15:41
Subject: Disembarking a unit, moving the tank, moving the unit.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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evildrspock wrote:This was easily overlooked by me as a player once, until my opponent pointed it out to me. Disembarking is part of a unit's movement, so if you disembark a unit before moving its transport , you must conclude any additional movement that unit has before you may move the transport itself. This is commonly over looked by players who a) disembark with squad. b)move transport out of way. c) move squad into previous position of transport.
Obviously wrong, but commonly done. (I did it!  ) Best practice to always conclude one unit's movement/actions before moving onto another for the phase.
What is your rules question?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 17:43:35
Subject: Disembarking a unit, moving the tank, moving the unit.
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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Less of a question, more of a correction for commonly misunderstood rules, which are at the root of a lot of these rules inquiries. By reading these, it helps anyone who would have misunderstood.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 19:55:13
Subject: Re:Disembarking a unit, moving the tank, moving the unit.
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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Okay, well, I need to correct my friends as well then I guess. At with the vehicles I use(rhinos), I would pop smoke for that 4++ cover.
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