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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 12:23:24
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just wondering why the Exorcists where created to fight daemons when the GK where already in existence, is it just a case of the Exorcists are used for minor daemon incursions to avoid potentially losing any GK in combat or was it just a case of an anti-daemon chapter fitting in with the whole cursed founding theme lol
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Dark Eldar 2500pts
Carcharodons
Enclaves 750
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 12:37:45
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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The Exorcists were to be a new generation of daemonhunters that were (ironically) easier to create then Grey Knights. Grey Knights have to be drawn from those that are both a Marine candidate AND psychic while The Exorcists can be created from any Marine candidate. Also, the Exorcists are immune to chaos due to the possession opposed to the GK, who train to be able to resist the chaos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 12:39:36
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Regular Dakkanaut
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hmm as they have been possessed would they be allowed access to the black library or is it only those who have expelled the daemon using their own will?
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Dark Eldar 2500pts
Carcharodons
Enclaves 750
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 13:13:52
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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I believe it has to be by your own will, and they are possessed on purpose, so the Eldar might bock at that. Only one human has ever been allowed access, Bronislaw Czevak, and he spent years among the Eldar and still had to prove himself. Good question though.
They do have access to vast Imperial storehouses of chaos knowledge and have a close working relationship with the Inquisition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 14:06:18
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I was under the impression that there was more than one human that was allowed access (although I was assuming the illuminati was only made up of humans)
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Dark Eldar 2500pts
Carcharodons
Enclaves 750
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 16:56:05
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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Being able to expel a deamon during a possossion is needed to go into the black library, but it isn't an all access pass, you still need to be let in by the Eldar.
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Relictors: 1500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 17:22:55
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Mad Tanker wrote:The Exorcists were to be a new generation of daemonhunters that were (ironically) easier to create then Grey Knights. Grey Knights have to be drawn from those that are both a Marine candidate AND psychic while The Exorcists can be created from any Marine candidate. Also, the Exorcists are immune to chaos due to the possession opposed to the GK, who train to be able to resist the chaos.
They also don't use the specialist equipment (psycannons, etc).
I'd hazard a guess that Exorcists also fill the role of a public facing chapter the Inquisition can point to when they are trying to defuse rumors about demon hunting space marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 19:06:50
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Colin747 wrote:I was under the impression that there was more than one human that was allowed access (although I was assuming the illuminati was only made up of humans) The canon status of the Illuminati is in question. nobody wrote:The Mad Tanker wrote:The Exorcists were to be a new generation of daemonhunters that were (ironically) easier to create then Grey Knights. Grey Knights have to be drawn from those that are both a Marine candidate AND psychic while The Exorcists can be created from any Marine candidate. Also, the Exorcists are immune to chaos due to the possession opposed to the GK, who train to be able to resist the chaos. They also don't use the specialist equipment (psycannons, etc). I'd hazard a guess that Exorcists also fill the role of a public facing chapter the Inquisition can point to when they are trying to defuse rumors about demon hunting space marines. I think one of the IA mentions they use the 'tools of daemonhunting", whatever that means
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 19:54:34
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Mad Tanker wrote:
nobody wrote:The Mad Tanker wrote:The Exorcists were to be a new generation of daemonhunters that were (ironically) easier to create then Grey Knights. Grey Knights have to be drawn from those that are both a Marine candidate AND psychic while The Exorcists can be created from any Marine candidate. Also, the Exorcists are immune to chaos due to the possession opposed to the GK, who train to be able to resist the chaos.
They also don't use the specialist equipment (psycannons, etc).
I'd hazard a guess that Exorcists also fill the role of a public facing chapter the Inquisition can point to when they are trying to defuse rumors about demon hunting space marines.
I think one of the IA mentions they use the 'tools of daemonhunting", whatever that means
Yeah it mentions stuff on the 40k lexicanium that "they used the tools of exorcism" but didn't clarify.
The problem is the new GK fluff seems to restricts quite a bit of the gear (I can't see them getting Psycannons, for example, based on how rare they are in fluff and Psilencers, Aegis armor, and Nemesis Force Weapons require them to be psykers). Most likely they are limited to having stuff like grimoires and relics.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/18 20:05:21
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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"Tools of exorcism" likely refers to things like Null Rods and various rites of banishment.
Here's the thing about the Exorcists. They might be easier to "create" than the Grey Knights, but while being immune to Daemonic possession (a large worry about fielding Astartes aside from the Grey Knights against Dameonic infestations) they are different than Grey Knights.
The mere presence of Grey Knights on the battlefield can weaken Daemonic foes. The Exorcists don't really have that going for them.
Doesn't make one or the other better, mind you, just means they'd be used differently. Exorcists will respond to the Inquisition's calls and sometimes serve as a retinue for an Inquisitor and his followers to fight Daemonic infestations, from the way I've been led to believe.
Oh!
Also, you won't see Psycannons/Psilencers used by the Exorcists' infantry most likely because Psycannons/Psilencers require a bit of psychic aptitude on the individual's part if I'm remembering the fluff on them 100% right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 00:10:04
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
Eye of Terror
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Colin747 wrote:Just wondering why the Exorcists where created to fight daemons when the GK where already in existence, is it just a case of the Exorcists are used for minor daemon incursions to avoid potentially losing any GK in combat or was it just a case of an anti-daemon chapter fitting in with the whole cursed founding theme lol
Just my own opinion but the grey knights are only one chapter. and there are millions of demons... so... lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/19 04:26:54
Subject: Grey Knights and Exorcists
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
Vancouver, BC
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Like people said before... exorcists are probably like you're cheaper grey knights
They don't have the whole daemon weakening prescence, but for minor daemons/entities, they're practically invisible ( http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Exorcists#.T4-RDatYuJo)
As for the whole exorcism of the daemon that they're possessed with, lexicanum gives a little description on that too as well as the 40k wiki
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Exorcists
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