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Hey, I've been playing nilla marines for some time now, and I've been interested in Making them BT. But I need some help for a 1500 list because I want to try to make a List with the models I already have. + I don't know the codex so well.


This is what i have
2x Rhino.
20x normal tacticals, 2x flamer, 2x Missile launcher.
Land Raider Crusader.
Any Kind of terminators for in the land raider.
Land Speeder, possibly Typhoon.
Dreadnought AOBR --> Could be Converted
Predator any kind.

Thanx a lot in advance!

I would really love a Hybrid list with a mech core. (if that is even possible)

You have all the right stuff for a BT army. If you have the anyone with a power weapon, they can be your emperor's champion (who has to be taken in any game above 750 points). the list would look something like this:
Emperor's Champion.. 140 (assuming you take AACNMO)
Land Raider Crusader.. 265 (add terminators of your choice to this)
Crusader squad... 240 or so with rhino x2
Dreadnought with mulit melta... 120 (may want to add venerable)
And then you can use the speeder and predator equipped about however you want to fill the remainder.
It's fairly basic but should do fine. If you have any extra models with power weapon or lightning claws, you may want to add a marshal (who is basically the BT captain if you don't know)

Nice, Thanx! A good coincidence I have all these units then. I also saw something With the Neophytes. is that any good? and also, What kind of termies should i take? I saw that you were able to take 2 missile launchers per 5. or are the assault termies still better?

I have been running, with success, the following:
Marshall: Adamantium Mantle, Chainfist, Storm Shield, Terminator Armor
Emperor's Champion: AAC Vow
6 TH/SS Terminators
2x 5 Terminators: 2 Cyclones, Tankhunters
2x 5 Initiates: 3 Bolter, 1 Flamer, 1 BP/CCW
5 Initiates: 4 BP/CCW, 1 Bolter
Land Raider Crusader: Blessed Hull, Dozer, Searchlights, Smoke Launchers
2x 2 Typhoon Landspeeders
1 Typhoon Speeder

18 Missiles a turn with a pretty nasty deathstar. If you play BT play to your strengths not weaknesses. The rhinos are really overpriced, as are our troops. The lack of grenades is pretty annoying. Good things:
I'd consider drop pods. The blessed hull Land Raider is great because it turns the DE matchup into a good one. The double cyclone tank-hunting terminators are great. Typhoons are underpriced. The leadership 10 or 9 from the Marshall/Castellan is necessary.

I generally hide my troops behind LOS-blocking terrain and use reserves. The army generally prefers to go second as you can BLoS to your speeders which can then move 12" and fire missiles. The tactical terminators can also hide behind the LR. It's quite annoying for other players to face.

I would take the tactical terminators with the guns just because of the fact that assault terminators don't always work. That's just my opinion, so if you'd prefer assault, go for it. Neophytes are scouts built into your crusader squads, and you can have 1 for every initiate, which is just a tactical marine. If you move them into the land raider, or walk one of your crusader squads you can add them, but a rhino isnt big enough for a 10 man crusader squad + neophytes. They are fairly good, and cheap, but they dont benefit from vows on your emperor's champion.

Thanx for all the advice. but it is kind of a big drawback for me not to use my rhino's. because I don't have that many models. for the rest. Is it better for the initates to have a chainsword?