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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 01:16:14
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hey guys, writing a list for a game i have in line for next week, Trying to come up with a list that I can field using as few proxy models as possible.
Unfortunately the game is to be played without any special characters, which means no henchmen as troops (which would have been my ideal choice tbh)
So anyway, heres my list:
HQ
Grand Master 175 - might need an upgrade
Malleus Inquisitor - Psyker+Psychic Communion, 3x servo skulls - 64
Henchmen Crusader x5, Mystic x1, Warrior x3 (3x plasma guns), Chimaera - 167
ELITES
Venerable Dreadnought - Autocannon 185
Venerable Dreadnought - Autocannon 185
TROOPS
GK Strike Squad x10, Psycannon x2, Rhino - 260
GK Strike Squad x10, Psycannon x2, Rhino - 260
HEAVY SUPPORT
Dreadknight - Heavy Incinerator, Nemesis Greatsword
TOTAL = 1481
Ok now ideally, I wouldnt have any dreads in my list. My goal list has 2x Dreadknights with personal teleporters.
BUT... without henchmen as troops, they cant be crowbarred in to a 1500 point list very easily. So I went with 2 dreads (borrowed from a friend) to fill in where I couldnt fit a paladin squad.
Models-wise, I will be proxying 10 of the strike squad guys, and I have a box of 5 terminators that are currently unused. But I was going to use them as paladins but again, hard to cram them in.
Any suggestions from you guys will be helpful! The army will be facing either a space marine army or imperial guard.
edit: oh yeh, my thoughts for the list lol. rhinos and chimera goes for their targets, inquisitor and grand master in the chimera. Venerable Dreads will be deployed in the backfield giving support where they can. Dreadknight will be held in reserve, and deepstrike in where needed using the mystic or servo skulls, using the Psychic Communions to bring him on the turn hes needed most, and I would probably use the grand strategy to make him a scoring unit, and maybe the dreadnoughts too if i can.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/20 01:22:03
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 06:22:36
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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I think it looks good, all you need is a MC Daemon Hammer on the Strikes.
Do the Ven Dreads have Psyrifle Autocannons?
You could drop the Grand Master, 2 troops would still be sufficient in 1500 as you can combat squad, take a teleporter on the dreadknight so it gets right in their face and makes them worried early on.
It'd be better for your units to start rather than deep strike, so drop psychic communion on the inquisitor and get hammerhand, it will make the crusaders S4
you could think about giving your inquisitor a weapon.
If you took the hammers, dropped the GM and gave the DK a teleporter then you'd have 89 points left to spend.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 17:30:47
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The Ven dreads were intended to have psybolts yeah, but i forgot to put them on...
I like all your ideas, would there be any solution to dropping the dreads altogether? id like t include paladins maybe, or maybe a stormraven. Trying to make a competitive list that allows me to try out the different units I like lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 17:33:39
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Step 1 : Get Psycannons
Step 2 : Shoot them
Step 3 : Win Every game.
your list has Adequate usage of the psycannon, but you need more to be fully optimized. I would make sure to add AS MANY PSYCANNONS as possible to your list.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/20 17:34:29
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 17:35:00
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Niiru wrote:The Ven dreads were intended to have psybolts yeah, but i forgot to put them on...
I like all your ideas, would there be any solution to dropping the dreads altogether? id like t include paladins maybe, or maybe a stormraven. Trying to make a competitive list that allows me to try out the different units I like lol.
Give me tonight, and i'll write you a list, I don't have anything better to do
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 19:57:02
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thanks ^^ I'll put up a revised list of my own later on too
I could always field a tyranid or eldar army instead, but I think i'd be pushed to get 1500 points out of my models for those
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 20:00:32
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Niiru wrote:Thanks ^^ I'll put up a revised list of my own later on too
I could always field a tyranid or eldar army instead, but I think i'd be pushed to get 1500 points out of my models for those
Stick with the G Knights, they look awesome on the table  On your other thread, I don't think you should let people stop you from choosing the army you want, You aren't a power gamer, you're geniunly choosing an army because it visually appeals to you like myself, I didn't want a Draigowing or purifier list because it gets a bad rep, I am kitbashing Inquisitors and DCA's ect instead and it's nice to have an army that looks great and still plays well Automatically Appended Next Post: Ok I've got 2 lists for you, one has Dreadnoughts, the other has Dreadknights:
List 1:
HQ:
Malleus Inquisitor 93
2 Daemonblades, Power Armour, Hammerhand
Troops:
Terminators 210
MC Hammer, 4 Halberds, Incinerator
Terminators 210
MC Hammer, 4 Halberds, Incinerator
Elites:
Vindicare Assassin 135
Henchmen Squad 187
7 Crusaders, 3 Acolytes with Plasma Guns, Chimera, Heavy Flamer
Fast Attack:
Stormraven 205
Stormraven 205
Heavy Support:
Dreadknight 265
Teleporter, Greatsword, Heavy incinerator
1500/1500
List 2:
HQ:
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor 71
Power Armour, Hammerhand, Force Sword, 3 Servo Skulls,
Troops:
Terminator Squad 205
Hammer, 4 Halberds, Incinerator
Terminator Squad 205
Hammer, 4 Halberds, Incinerator
Elites:
Henchmen Squad 132
6 Crusaders, 3 Acolytes with Plasma Guns
Fast Attack:
Stormraven 205
TL MM, TL Plasma Cannon
Stormraven 205
TL MM, TL Plasma Cannon
Stormraven 205
TL MM, TL Plasma Cannon
Heavy Support:
Dreadnought 135
2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammunition
Dreadnought 135
2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammunition
1498/1500
Hope these are ok, which do you prefer?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/20 20:27:21
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 21:33:30
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well tbh, the first one was appealing as it fitted in the dreadknight with teleporters (which I did like) and I was surprised to see 2 stormravens crowbarred into it as well!
Although atm models-wise, I only have 5 GK termies, and I have 10 GK marines (and a few other old marines), though I could easily proxy 5 termies from somewhere. Would 10 scoring models be enough though?
Ive seen the vindicare used in a couple other lists, Ive not really considered using the assassins tbh I didnt know they were so good?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/20 21:40:53
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Vindicare is 145, not 135. Just thought I'd point that out.
Oh, and those ten scoring models should be ok if you keep them safe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/21 00:21:05
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I wrote up your list, with the vinidcar and dreadknight, and it came out at 1502, which is pretty close at least lol.
I did wonder if it would be feasible to swap out a squad of 5 termies for a squad of 10 SS instead, as I have the appropriate models. Isnt important though, especially if it weakens the list
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/21 03:19:53
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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umm, moving on lol..
actually turned out id added up the crusaders wrong... so it must have been more than 1502 points?
The following list comes to 1527 atm anyways :
HQ
Malleus Inquisitor
Terminator+Demon hammer
Psyker+Hammerhand
Henchmen Crusader x6
Warrior x3
x3 plasma guns
Chimaera (flamer)
ELITES
Vindicare Assassin
TROOPS
Terminators x5
Incinerator x1
Halberd x4
MC Hammer
GK StrikeSquad x10
Psycannon x2
FAST ATTACK
Stormraven
Stormraven
HEAVY SUPPORT
Dreadknight
Teleporter
Heavy Incinerator
Nemesis Greatsword
So maybe the strikes arent a good fit. the 6 crusaders add up to 90 points, but i dont think i should take less than 6 in the squad..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/21 08:16:19
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Why don't you drop a Warrior Acolyte and then you should have the points for list 1 to work when including the vindicare
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/21 13:35:21
Subject: 1500 Grey knights for First Game
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sounds good for a test game anyway
Unfortunatly the dreadknight I had ordered last week from a shop still has been delayed (again! grr) so I will have to proxy in a Wraithlord instead, assuming I can get it made in time. Will have to find an appropriate base for it...
I will have to use 2 wave serpents as stormravens, as they are the closest thing I have, and the chances of me getting 2 stormravens by tuesday is pretty slim lol
I doubt my friend will mind either of these too much... though im not too sure on the differences in sizes so who knows. at least the rest of the army will be pretty much correct
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