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GK Codex: Can I use an OS on the first turn? The rules state the OS can't be used if the model moved in the previous turn, but as there was no previous turn, does setting up count as moving?

I have a regular opponent and, with the amount of games we play, fair play is very important. We don't always take difficult terrain tests, We've argued rules and come to fair conclusions to keep everything as equal as possible. But this one stuck in my craw. My opponent thinks it's fine to fire on the first turn. Sometimes I field three or more OS, so I want to be clear on this so I don't win by ignorantly cheating.

Yes you can.
But you have mistaken when you talk about "previous turn".
OSR is talking about the "preceding movement phase" and OSR is used on your own Shooting phase.

This means it doesn't matter what turn it was, because turn
order is
1) Movement phase (can't move here if you want to use OSR)
2) Shooting phase (can only use OSR if you didn't move last phase)
3) Assault phase

So if it's turn 2, it doesn't matter if you moved during turn 1, as long as you haven't moved during turn 2 movement phase,

Your right. I read it wrong.

Luide wrote:Yes you can.
But you have mistaken when you talk about "previous turn".
OSR is talking about the "preceding movement phase" and OSR is used on your own Shooting phase.

This means it doesn't matter what turn it was, because turn
order is
1) Movement phase (can't move here if you want to use OSR)
2) Shooting phase (can only use OSR if you didn't move last phase)
3) Assault phase

So if it's turn 2, it doesn't matter if you moved during turn 1, as long as you haven't moved during turn 2 movement phase,

then... why not just make it a heavy weapon?
them adding this extra rule makes me think that you need to skip two movement phases to shoot it.
IIRC the OSR works the same way as the SM chapter master's OB

i think you need to at least wait untill turn two to shoot the OSR

If it was a heavy weapon, then a model in Terminator Armor could still shoot it after moving. They want to make sure nothing moves when the OSR is triggered.

It's like an Ordinance weapon but you don't have to be a vehicle to carry it.

The more logical solution would to update the Ordinance weapon rules to be a general weapon rule rather than vehicle specific.