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This is where all my army lists will go in the end. Feel free to comment on them and give advice if you feel i need it. I will say that not all of these lists are for serious play. I'm pretty sure you'd be able to work out which

250 pointer (my first crack at it, tried to make it a bit different)

heroes.

harad Chieftain. . . . . .50
bow

Harad Chieftain. . . . . 50
Bow

warband 1:. . . . . . . . . 80
6x Serpent guard
4x Abrakhan Guard

warband 2:. . . . . . . . . 70
10x Harad Warriors
Bows

total: 250 points.

600 pointer (I think it;s pretty obvious this wasn't put together too seriously)

Heroes

The Knight of Umbar. . . . 190 (warband on his own)
Armoured Fell Beast

The Betrayer. . . . . .. . . . . .135
Armoured Horse

Harad Taskmaster. . . . . .60

Warband 1: . . . . . . . . . . . .96
8x Serpent Guard
4x Abrakhan Guard

Warband 2:. . . . . . . . . . . .112
8x Warriors of Karna
Bows
4x Watchers of Karna
Bows


Total: 593 points.

Looks pretty good, can't really go wrong with the Haradrim warrior's choices.

The Ringwraith list looks like a horror to fight against.

Was actually thinking of dropping down the warrior numbers and sticking the Betrayer on a Fell Beast too but then thought i might be pushing it a bit.

Plus i think 24 guys is fine. I tried to stay maximised on poison and having the Abrakhan guys for armor smashing and the watchers of karna to make my archer block look a bit scarier. Could afford to upgrade 7 more of my warriors of karna to Watchers.

The Knight of Umbar on Armored Fell Beast is just for scaryness and pouncing on any hero or squishy looking troops that expose themselves and ripping them apart. Plus, big base means more models to choose from for his effect Do you think the horned fell beast would be worth it? As i have the 5 pts spare? But i feel D7 is more important than S7.

Honestly I couldn't tell you. The only time my mumak which uses a large base as well wasn't on the field for terribly long. Was quite the disappointment.

I say employ a counts as and try it. Or if you already have the model have at it!

Well the Nazul on Fellbeast and the Knight of Umbar model will be quite a late purchase i can imagine. Not sure if you get bits to make either a normal fellbeast, armored or horned in the box.

What i am going to do though is convert my Knight of Umbar mounted model to riding the Fell Beast as i don't like the idea of just having a generic wraith sitting on him. But what i'll do is pin him not glue him so i can remove him from the fell beast and put him on horse or have other converted wraiths to put on the beast. As i'm not likely to want to use more than 1/2 mounted wraiths at a time but i may want to use different Wraiths on the Fell Beast.

I do thinkn you get the bitzs to make a armourd fellbeast in the pack. And the list looks alrigth enough, althou 24 moddels may be a bit too few for Harad but I do not play them, or figth them that often so i do not really know.

Just my thoughts but I would have neither on fell beasts, think of all the Haradrim you've just sacrificed. Horses though for sure.

I did say my 600pt list was not serious. It was just a list for me to see if i could fit in both wraiths with a fellbeast and still have a decent core of troops. Plus, you just don;t see enough fell beasts around these days and the models are so damn awesome.

True. They are very very cool

Yup, but for a guy on an armoured one it;s 190pts, tis a large chunk. But with The Knight of Umbar, sitting on one it is probly the scariest close combat guy ever. Plus he can cast spells too I just want one, great centrepiece for the army and also awesome looking imposing leader model.

Gunna post another slighty more serious list later. Just taking a while to really tweak it enough and jiggle things around to fit in the most for my points. Is real effort. As i want to fit KoU on a fell beast into 500 XD

Far too many bows, Haradrim bands can only have half of their warbands equiped with Bows.

Heroes don't count towards the bow limit. He has 12 Haradrim archers. then x8 serpent guard and x4 Abrakhan guards.

No, a single warband of Haradrim can only have half its members equipped with bows.

That Haradrim only? Sorry I do not have the sourcebook

Brother-Captain Scotti wrote:That Haradrim only? Sorry I do not have the sourcebook

Yeah, for most books the army can only have 33% of there units having bows, with the Haradrim it's 50% per unit.

Oh sorry, I meant as in this rule is per warband not over the force cos a lot of people have said both now

So...50% of a -warband- can have one.

Well damn. I've been doing it wrong.

Shadowbrand wrote:So...50% of a -warband- can have one.

Well damn. I've been doing it wrong.

No, its only 50% of a warband if they are :
Allies to another army
or
Have an army allied to them

This is why Haradrim shouldn't ally.

Unless you want a Mûmak.