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Didn't see anything on this recently, so I just wanted to make sure I was up to speed on Teclis. Three points below, am I right or wrong.

- Teclis casts irresistably on any doubles, doesn't need the succesfuly cast.

- Teclis knows the 6 spells, but is not a loremaster, so does not know the signature

- Teclis chooses his lore after Deployment, not at army list creation

Thanks for the help.

djones520 wrote:- Teclis casts irresistably on any doubles, doesn't need the succesfuly cast.

Wrong, his rule says the cast must have doubles and be succsesfull, so he must meet the value.

djones520 wrote:- Teclis knows the 6 spells, but is not a loremaster, so does not know the signature

Oddly enough yes, currently.

djones520 wrote:- Teclis chooses his lore after Deployment, not at army list creation

Yup, his rule is more specific and thus overrules the normal rule.

In other words, Teclis is kinda broken. Lol.

Yes, when only one magic deffence in one army has a better than 0% chance of stopping you, you become kinda broken.

HoverBoy wrote:

djones520 wrote:- Teclis knows the 6 spells, but is not a loremaster, so does not know the signature

Oddly enough yes, currently.

Remember that you may switch one of the spells for the signature after he chooses his lore.

djones520 wrote:
- Teclis casts irresistably on any doubles, doesn't need the succesfuly cast.

Wrong, his rule says the cast must have doubles and be succsesfull, so he must meet the value.

Just to clear this up it means it has to be successfully cast to count as irresistable. This means you must meet the casting value AND your opponent must fail in his dispell attempt. The rulebook defines a spell as successfully cast after dispell attempts.

FlingitNow wrote:

djones520 wrote:
- Teclis casts irresistably on any doubles, doesn't need the succesfuly cast.

Wrong, his rule says the cast must have doubles and be succsesfull, so he must meet the value.

Just to clear this up it means it has to be successfully cast to count as irresistable. This means you must meet the casting value AND your opponent must fail in his dispell attempt. The rulebook defines a spell as successfully cast after dispell attempts.

Not exactly. The HE Faq states:

Page 66 – Teclis, High Loremaster
Change the last paragraph to “In addition, any spell cast by
Teclis will be cast with irresistible force on any successful
casting roll that is a double, however it will only be considered
a miscast if the roll includes a double 6.”

This means that the dice used to cast the spell will cause an irresistible force if the total is greater than the casting value and it includes a double. There is a difference between successfully cast and successful casting roll.

Hellstorm wrote:

HoverBoy wrote:

djones520 wrote:- Teclis knows the 6 spells, but is not a loremaster, so does not know the signature

Oddly enough yes, currently.

Remember that you may switch one of the spells for the signature after he chooses his lore.

You can swap a spell if you roll for spells.

"...a Wizard can always choose to substittue one of the spells he rolls with the signature spell..."

He never rolled for spells.

FlingitNow wrote:

djones520 wrote:
- Teclis casts irresistably on any doubles, doesn't need the succesfuly cast.

Wrong, his rule says the cast must have doubles and be succsesfull, so he must meet the value.

Just to clear this up it means it has to be successfully cast to count as irresistable. This means you must meet the casting value AND your opponent must fail in his dispell attempt. The rulebook defines a spell as successfully cast after dispell attempts.

USE LOGIC DUDE. If what you said were true, then Teclis' power would be the most useless thing ever. You were given the ability to reason, use it.

Easy now. He was just asking and not everyone is familiar with all the rules.

But yeah, if it also had to withspell dispell to be considered IF it would basically do nothing. Because all spells are IF (without miscast) if no one dispells them. IF means you can't dispel.

Bro read the faq, its on the website, clears up just about every question you have.