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Greetings,
I've been searching for clarification and didn't find anything on the following:

If a transport carrying passengers is destroyed, the transport model is removed and the passengers are placed on the table where the transport was; the wreck is now considered difficult and dangerous terrain; so do the passengers have to take tests when it is their turn to move? If another unit assaults the passengers, are they assaulting into difficult/dangerous terrain if the passengers stay in place? I am assuming yes to all questions, however, during a recent game, we were unable to find this mechanic spelled out and we got into a logic vs rules as written kind of dilemma.

Thanks for reading

You are mixing the two destroyed results.

with Destroyed - Wrecked, the model stays on the table and becomes difficult and dangerous terrain.

with Destroyed - Explodes, you remove the model and replace the area with a crater that is just difficult terrain.

Moreover, in a 'wrecked' result, the models must be placed around the wrecked vehicle but not in or on it.

The 'explodes' result actually requires you to place the models in the crater (or more specifically, the space that was previously occupied by the vehicle, if possible) that replaces the vehicle.

DoW

DogOfWar wrote:Moreover, in a 'wrecked' result, the models must be placed around the wrecked vehicle but not in or on it.

The 'explodes' result actually requires you to place the models in the crater (or more specifically, the space that was previously occupied by the vehicle, if possible) that replaces the vehicle.

DoW

Thanks folks, this helps. After returning to the BRB pg 67 and with your help, I have a better understanding of how to handle the two scenarios. Under "Destroyed - Wrecked", passengers must disembark the vehicle, so I take it that the passenger models are not placed around the vehicle must disembark as normal (via access points); i.e. the player can disembark to the most advantageous position and does not place his the unit around the wrecked vehicle (maintaining cohesion).

If I destroy-wreck an enemy rhino with passengers, the player can disembark the unit (maintaining cohesion) on an opposite side of the rhino in order to avoid an assault in that phase?

So, if you wanted to pop a transport and assault the passengers:
a) the other player can use the wrecked vehicle as a barrier if it's destroyed-wrecked;
b) you will be assaulting into difficult terrain and take a penalty (unless you have grenades) if the vehicle is destroyed-explodes;
c) you can surround the vehicle and all the passengers are destroyed if you have enough models to do so and those models have the gear to pop the transport

Yes. If you block the access points they can try an emergency disembark as well.

They cannot use the vehicle as a barrier - as you will have seen a Wreck is difficult and dangerous terrain. They can get through the wreck, but it may hurt.

C) Is only correct if you wreck it - if you explode it they are placed into the crater. Additionally those models around it dont have to be the ones that kill the vehicle - just their presence will kill them

Tactically speaking, the attacking player will be at a disadvantage assaulting a transported unit after the transport is destroyed (unless it explodes and the assaulting unit has grenades I suppose); it seems to me that the passengers should also be reduced to initiative 1 for that round as well, but that's a suggestion for another forum.

not sure what this means:

Additionally those models around it dont have to be the ones that kill the vehicle - just their presence will kill them

If you had enough models to surround the transport in the movement phase, you are saying another model could destroy that transport in the shooting phase, and if successful, the passengers would be destroyed; i.e. the other model could shoot the transport because the horde isn't in CC yet because of phase order. Is that what you're saying?

If a vehicle is Destroyed - Wrecked by shooting while a different unit is surrounding the vehicle (But 1" away as they have not assaulted it) and there is no place to disembark, then yes the embarked unit is destroyed.