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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 19:25:16
Subject: Imotekh & Solar Pulses, Ever-living & static effects.
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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If I have Imotekh in an army that also contains solar pulses, and Imotekh's night fighting runs out, am I allowed to use solar pulses to keep night fight for additional turns, even though Imotekh says I can't?
If a model with ever-living is killed by an animus vitae, does the animus vitae get its bonus right away or does it have to wait until the model fails its ever-living roll?
If a model with ever-living dies and then comes back at the end of the phase, is it still affected by negative and/or positive static effects (e.g., pinning, having gone to ground, Zandrekh's adaptive tactics, zandrekh's counter-tactics, lost saves from entropic strike, ability modification from an aeonstave, etc.)?
If a pinned ever-living model returns to play at the end of the movement phase within 2" of an independent character, can the independent character join the ever-living model and is it subsequently pinned?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 19:30:40
Subject: Imotekh & Solar Pulses, Ever-living & static effects.
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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You can use the Solar Pulse to activate night fight but you do not get the lightning strikes from Imotekh.
You should get the Animus bonus immediately (I think), since killing a model with Reanimation Protocols provides a RP token, but does not technically save the specific model...
Everliving one is a good question, my guess is no but I do not have a concrete argument to back it up
Also a good question and not sure. There may be a stipulation in the pinning rules on this....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 19:43:53
Subject: Imotekh & Solar Pulses, Ever-living & static effects.
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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I am not arguing whether Imotekh's lightning strikes are affected by his night-fighing. I am worried about the argument being made in some play groups that the following passage prevents night fight from EVER happening in the same game again:
"If not, the night fighting rules cease to be in effect and are not used for the rest of the battle."
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/25 19:44:12
Check out my project, 41.0, which aims to completely rewrite 40k!
Yngir theme song:
I get knocked down, but I get up again, you're never gonna keep me down; I get knocked down...
Lordhat wrote:Just because the codexes are the exactly the same, does not mean that that they're the same codex. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 20:15:55
Subject: Imotekh & Solar Pulses, Ever-living & static effects.
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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I always read that as Imotekh's Night Fight rules, but I see where you are going.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 20:54:45
Subject: Imotekh & Solar Pulses, Ever-living & static effects.
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
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You can use the pulses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 21:08:27
Subject: Imotekh & Solar Pulses, Ever-living & static effects.
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Lord of the Fleet
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copper.talos wrote:You can use the pulses.
Anything to back that up?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 21:16:12
Subject: Imotekh & Solar Pulses, Ever-living & static effects.
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Helpful Sophotect
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Valkyrie wrote:copper.talos wrote:You can use the pulses.
Anything to back that up?
I'd say the second paragraph of "Lord of the Storm" indicates that you can use solar pulses subsequently, since it addresses that very point. i.e. if you couldn't use a pulse to generate Night Fighting rules, they wouldn't need the clarification that when you do just that, it doesn't generate lightning.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 22:00:37
Subject: Imotekh & Solar Pulses, Ever-living & static effects.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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calypso2ts wrote:
You should get the Animus bonus immediately (I think), since killing a model with Reanimation Protocols provides a RP token, but does not technically save the specific model...
Everliving one is a good question, my guess is no but I do not have a concrete argument to back it up
Q: When does a unit with Power from Pain gain a pain
token for destroying a model/unit with the ability to
return to play. For example a Necron with the We’ll be
Back special rule. (p25)
A: The model/unit must be completely destroyed so the
unit will only gain a pain token once the model/unit is
completely removed from play. In the case of a
Necronunit, a pain token will be generated once a unit
has been destroyed (even if some of its models have
returned into other nearby units).
Not really quite sure how that applies here, maybe someone can attempt to clarify or start a debate
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/26 02:22:04
Subject: Imotekh & Solar Pulses, Ever-living & static effects.
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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I believe the animus triggers when the bearer kills any model, but my DE codex is out on loan.
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