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Ok so a friend and myself have never done a tournament like this so any advice would be helpful.

Format: 2000 points, One shared force org chart. Each player must field at least one HQ and one troop choice. Special rules and transports do not work cross army (no Genestealers in the Rhino).

Stratagy: our basic thinking My self the Blood Angels will be the troops while Tau is support with tank Popping



HQ
Reclusiarch - Jetpack = 155
Troops
1 Tactical squad- 1 flamer, 1 meltagun =180
1 Tactical squad- 1 flamer, 1 meltagun =180
Death Company – PW, PW, TH =235
1 Death Company Dreadnought- Blood talons, heavy flamer, Drop pod = 170
Total = 920


Tau
HQ
Shas'o- fusion blaster, airbursting fragmentation projector, shield gen, hardwire multi tracker, stimulant injector =142
2x bodyguard- fusion blaster, plasma rifle, shield gen, HWMT=184
Troops
6xFirewarriors: pulse rifles, devil fish w/disruption pods(145)
Heavy
Hammer head-railgun ,burst cannons, disruption pods=155
Hammer head-railgun ,burst cannons, disruption pods=155
2xBroadside team w/team leader- Advanced stabilization system, squad leader w/drone controller, 2x shield drone=200

Total = 981

Total Force = 1901

Im not sure what els we can put in there since i dont know the Tau very well.

ba libriarian chaplin 10 assult marines power fist and 2 melta guns with prist (hand flamers and power fst on any of them if possible)

death comp dred in forge world drop pod (65 points and fast attack) that lets you drop then assult

go with the forge world hero for tau 2 fire warriors and try to get markerlights

moar rail guns


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be aware of nurgle damons and nurgle chaos every kill of a model they get if they get 20+ then all units with mark of nurgle get all their attacks shooting and cc where you get no armor saves

Im pretty sure there is no FW allowed in the tournament

Do you know what all the tau player has availible to them? At those points it better to have broadsides. And more long range have hitting suites like death rains or even fireknifes. Ditc the shield Gens for shield/gun drones. Here's a list I put together as a rough idea +++ 1000 (995pts) +++
+++ 1000pt Tau Empire 4th Ed (2006) Roster (Standard) +++

Selections:

+ HQ + (117pts)

* Commander (117pts)
Missile Pod (), Multi-Tracker (), Plasma Rifle (), Shas'el
* Hard-Wired Drone Controller
2x Shield Drone (


+ Elites + (468pts)

* XV8 'Crisis' Battlesuit Team (186pts)
* Shas'ui
Missile Pod Multi-Tracker , Plasma Rifle
* Shas'ui
Missile Pod Multi-Tracker Plasma Rifle
* Shas'ui
Missile Pod Multi-Tracker Plasma Rifle


* XV8 'Crisis' Battlesuit Team (141pts)
* Shas'ui ()
Flamer (), Missile Pod Missile Pod Twin-Linked (
* Shas'ui
Flamer (), Missile Pod (), Missile Pod Twin-Linked ()
* Shas'ui (
Flamer (), Missile Pod (), Missile Pod Twin-Linked ()


* XV8 'Crisis' Battlesuit Team (141pts)
* Shas'ui (
Flamer (), Missile Pod ( Missile Pod Twin-Linked
* Shas'ui ()
Flamer (), Missile Pod ( Missile Pod Twin-Linked (
* Shas'ui (
Flamer ( Missile Pod ( Missile Pod Twin-Linked


+ Troops + (150pts)

* Fire Warrior Team (80pts)
8x Shas'la (80pts)


* Fire Warrior Team (70pts)
7x Shas'la (70pts)


+ Heavy Support + (260pts)

* XV88 Broadside Battlesuit Team (260pts)
* Shas'Ui Smart Missile System, Target Lock
* Shas'Ui Smart Missile System, Target Lock
* Shas'Ui Smart Missile System, Target Lock * Team Leader
* Hard-Wired Drone Controller 2x Shield Drone

) the shield Gens for shield/gun drones. Here's a list I put together as a rough idea

I'm not a Tau player, but what I know about the codex suggests that your plan is a solid one. However, I don't think you're executing it very well. The Blood Angels component isn't very well focused and it isn't using the best stuff in the book. The Tau piece should be centered around Battlesuits, which can handle the stuff the BA part can't handle well, like CC deathstars.

So, here's a suggestion:

BA:

HQ: Librarian with Jump Pack 125
EL: 2 Sanguinary Priests with Jump Packs and Combi-Meltas 170
TR: 10 Assault Marines with 2 Meltaguns and a Power Fist 235
TR: 10 Assault Marines with 2 Meltaguns and a Power Fist 235
TR: 10 Assault Marines with 2 Meltaguns and a Power Fist 235

Tau:

Minimum squad of Fire Warriors, the rest Battlesuits. Broadsides should be top priority; the rest Crisis Suits with Plasma to handle stuff like TH/SS Terminators.

This army will basically play like a typical DoA style BA army, but with far better fire support from the Tau suits. I think this build really plays to the strengths of both books. Tau's main problems are horrible Troops and lack of CC ability. On the other hand, this style of BA army is great against static shooting armies but struggles against mobile armies and CC deathstars. The Tau handle both those problems by shooting them, and the fire support they provide is much more durable and flexible than what the BA codex can do, without using vehicles which would dilute your target saturation.

If the Tau player doesn't have the suits necessary, let us know, but I doubt it will work nearly as well if you have to use vehicles.

@ MrEconomics: I really like your idea. Do you think it would be a horrible idea to have a hammerhead with an Ion cannon in the army?

If it's the only vehicle, yes. Armies work best when they overload their opponent's ability to deal with the target types they present. That means either taking a lot of something or none.

One Hammerhead will just give the enemy something useful to shoot with Lascannons, etc. If you don't have any vehicles, they have to target stuff like Broadsides, who should have cover and drones to make that a strategy that will take a while to pay off.

I played a double tourny w/ a Tau player and we ran the following list.:

HQ:
Libby w/ Handflamer
UR and Shield

Sas'el
Multi-tracker, targetting array
Plasma rifle and MP

elite:
Sang Priest

Sas'ui
MT, Plasma Rifle and MP

Sas'ui x2
2x TW MP

Troop:
6x Fire Warriors
DF with Disruption Pod

Assault Squad x5
PF and Meltagun
Las/Plas Razorback

Assault Squad x5
PF and Meltagun
Las/Plas Razorback

Assault Squad x5 (Libby Goes Here)
Hand flamer and Flamer
Las/Plas Razorback

Fast Attack:
Baal Predator
HB Sponsons

Baal Predator
HB Sponsons

Heavy Support:
Hammerhead w/Railgun, 2x Burst Cannons, and Disruption Pod

Hammerhead w/Railgun, 2x Burst Cannons, and Disruption Pod, Multi-tracker, and Target Lock

3x Broadsides
3x Targetting Array, Shas'vre upgrade, Drone controller, 2x Shield Drones, bonding knife.

The heavys were all different due to the missions being played. so they can be switched about.

Worked out pretty well.

MrEconomics wrote:If it's the only vehicle, yes. Armies work best when they overload their opponent's ability to deal with the target types they present. That means either taking a lot of something or none.

One Hammerhead will just give the enemy something useful to shoot with Lascannons, etc. If you don't have any vehicles, they have to target stuff like Broadsides, who should have cover and drones to make that a strategy that will take a while to pay off.

But isnt that the point of disruption pods... are broadsides cheaper im not sure


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also he does have one broadside team in there just forgot to list it.

2xBroadside team w/team leader- Advanced stabilization system, squad leader w/drone controller, 2x shield drone=200

Going to back every one up with ditching the generator and taking shield drones. That is about the only change to the Tau list other than maybe dropping the Bodyguards to just Crisis teams and using the extra 20 points for upgrades, like multitrackers on the the Hammerheads.

Go back and edit the broadside team in to the original list so we know it is there, please

The BA seems to be the bad build here. They are not really looking up to keeping the Tau out of CC. Mr Economics suggest list looks like it would reall take the edge off anything trying to get to CC on the Tau.

A Broadside with a Shield Drone is 85, while a Hammerhead with Railgun, 2 Burst Cannons and a D Pod is 165. So it's almost 2 Broadsides per Hammerhead, plus you can take 3 Broadsides per HS slot.

barnowl wrote:Going to back every one up with ditching the generator and taking shield drones. That is about the only change to the Tau list other than maybe dropping the Bodyguards to just Crisis teams and using the extra 20 points for upgrades, like multitrackers on the the Hammerheads.

Go back and edit the broadside team in to the original list so we know it is there, please

The BA seems to be the bad build here. They are not really looking up to keeping the Tau out of CC. Mr Economics suggest list looks like it would reall take the edge off anything trying to get to CC on the Tau.

Ok i edited the list... I agree that MrEconomics has it spot on with assualt marines