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Springfield MO

I had a bizzarre occurrence last night. Darnath Lysander was joined with a unit of Sternguard. They were charged across a narrow frontage in tight terrain something like this;

DP
SSS
SSLS
SSSS

with DP being a Daemon Prince, Lysander being L and the Sternguard being S. Lysander is within 2 inches, but cannot attack because he is an IC. Is this true? It seems remarkably unfair that the guys squashed into the 3rd rank can fight, but Lysander cannot.




 
   
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When the DP charges you, Lysander must move first during Defenders React. If he can't move anywhere because he is boxed in, then he won't be able to join in the fight because he is not B2B with the DP.
   
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Starheart wrote: Is this true? It seems remarkably unfair that the guys squashed into the 3rd rank can fight, but Lysander cannot.


Yes it's true. Have a look at p. 49, Independent Characters & Assaults.

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elrabin wrote:When the DP charges you, Lysander must move first during Defenders React. If he can't move anywhere because he is boxed in, then he won't be able to join in the fight because he is not B2B with the DP.

This is correct. Just remember to take this FAQ entry into account:
"Q: An Independent Character attached to a unit that is reacting to being assaulted, or making a pile-in move, must move before other friendly models to attempt to get in base contact with an enemy. What happens if the Independent Character is blocked from getting to enemy models by friendly models around him? (p49)"

A: If it is possible to move friendly models out of the way to make space for the Independent Character then they must move first. Followed by the Independent Character and finally the rest of the unit can move. If the Independent Character is still unable to make it into base contact he must move as close to the enemy as possible."

Boxing IC is therefore non-trivial. Especially as getting more than 1 enemy B2B during charge is very hard if you follow rules to the letter:
"Move the model into contact with the nearest enemy model in the unit being assaulted, using the shortest possible route" brb, pg 34



   
 
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