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How much do they cost? the same as chapter masters? i cant find a value in the codex

I'm pretty sure that they are Apocalypse only units.

im looking in the apoc codex and all I see is the masters of the chapter formation which costs 50+ model cost



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Errr 200+model cost

Yeah, that's what that is.
You can't get them separately in the codex.
They are just regular captains (IIRC led by a Chapter Master)

They are some pretty bamf models though.

You can use them as a SM Captain or Chapter Master as long as the wargear is correct.

Ah ok sweet, I was looking through the codexs like hmmm, what do for these models, but when i come to their gear in the apoc codex it says like the master of the watch has a SS and PW, do i just not add the point for those?