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Hey! First of, thank you for taking your time to help me out in providing the information I need!

So I am making a squad of Space Marines in the Ultramarine chapter. Is it alright for me to paint the helmets white on all of the members of the squad? Would this paint scheme be allowed in a real game? Could these Space Marines be used as normal marines in a game?

Yes to all questions.

I would say... "no".

White Helmet on Ultramarines is the distinctive sign of "veterans". And "veterans" have a special profile in the SM Codex.
So for me painting white helmets on tactical squad could lead to misunderstanding for your game-partner during the play.

I also been wondering about this, what if you have one veteran in 2nd chapter?

Also, you could go for 1st chapter but limit yourself to mostly terminators and dreadnaughts?

As long as you are clear to your opponent that they are not veterans I don't see the problem.

Minus wrote:I would say... "no".

White Helmet on Ultramarines is the distinctive sign of "veterans". And "veterans" have a special profile in the SM Codex.
So for me painting white helmets on tactical squad could lead to misunderstanding for your game-partner during the play.

That's not entirely true. Some vets, like Vanguard and Sternguard have their own entries in the Codex, but I see no harm in painting a tactical squad with white helmets and shoulder pad trim and using them as a standard squad as long as your opponent knows they count as a regular tactical squad. I say go for it. It will add some nice variety to your army.

How you paint your models has no baring in regards to rules so long as what the model represents is clear in comparison to the rest of the fielded army.

In regards to what paintjob should be done to what kinds of Ultramarines, I think it depends on what Company you intend on playing as.

Ultra Grey wrote:That's not entirely true. Some vets, like Vanguard and Sternguard have their own entries in the Codex, but I see no harm in painting a tactical squad with white helmets and shoulder pad trim and using them as a standard squad as long as your opponent knows they count as a regular tactical squad. I say go for it. It will add some nice variety to your army.

Of course can he paint his helmets White. He can even paint them pink if he wants. That's not what I'm talking about.

But for Ultramarines, White Helmets = First Company. So regarding the background, a tactical, assault or devastator marine with a white helmet is not possible for the Ultramarines.
If the background is not his problem and he doesn't feel concerned about it, yep he can paint his marines absolutely the way he wants.

Minus wrote:

Ultra Grey wrote:That's not entirely true. Some vets, like Vanguard and Sternguard have their own entries in the Codex, but I see no harm in painting a tactical squad with white helmets and shoulder pad trim and using them as a standard squad as long as your opponent knows they count as a regular tactical squad. I say go for it. It will add some nice variety to your army.

Of course can he paint his helmets White. He can even paint them pink if he wants. That's not what I'm talking about.

But for Ultramarines, White Helmets = First Company. So regarding the background, a tactical, assault or devastator marine with a white helmet is not possible for the Ultramarines.
If the background is not his problem and he doesn't feel concerned about it, yep he can paint his marines absolutely the way he wants.

Even if you have one veteran in tactical squad for example instead of sergeant?

As long as your paint scheme is consistent and you can clearly define the different types of models, it's no problem.

So the first company never have tactical marines? That seems wrong. The reason I am asking is because I want more color on the field. Make one of the squads more unique, not for it to be stronger but because it looks better.

Paint the helmets white, and the trims a different colour...blue or red maybe...then make sure ALL of your veterans have gold or silver trim...to show that you are using a veteran force from one company, and the veterans of another, more veteran company as veterans

Honestly? It shouldn't matter, if you're playing a reasonable and accomodating opponent. The most important thing is that all units are distigushable from each other and easily recognised for what they are as far as rules go. Giving your Tactical Squads white trim might make it difficult to tell them apart from Veteran Squads, but as long as you have a way of telling them apart it shouldn't matter. Some people use different base colours, or numbers on the miniature. Indeed, the 'official' look for Ultramarines includes squad number and role designation on pauldrons.

LazzurusMan wrote:Paint the helmets white, and the trims a different colour...blue or red maybe...then make sure ALL of your veterans have gold or silver trim...to show that you are using a veteran force from one company, and the veterans of another, more veteran company as veterans

Yo dawg, we heard you like veterans...