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2012/05/10 21:57:09
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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On a tactic forum I was pointed towards using a librarian which has now brought up a couple of questions.
1. if a libby can normally use 1 psychic power, does having a force weapon automatically allow 2 psychic powers (3 if Epistolary)
2. how does Null zone (re-roll successful invuls) work with Fateweaver(re-roll failed saves)
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2012/05/10 22:10:57
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Nope, if you use a power in the movement phase, assault someone later on, you cannot use another power unless you have epistolary. Making use of the force weapon counts towards your maximum use of power, the additional power is the force weapon psychic attack. You need to wait for the second round of combat to get your next chance to use a power as that is a new turn.
Pg 50: Force weapons box.
The normal rules for using
psychic powers apply (remember that a psyker
may normally use only one power per turn).
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2012/05/10 22:12:37
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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#1 the force weapon only allows access to a different Psychic power. you can still only use one power per turn, (2 if Epistolary)
#2, if you are under Null zone and Fateweaver, you roll all the dice, then re-roll the successful ones because of Null zone, and re-roll the failed ones because of Fateweaver. (Not sure how this is confusing.)
Alternately you could just roll once to save time, as the odds are the same if you roll once and keep the results, or roll once, ignore the first result and re-roll all of the dice. (The FaQ says this as well).
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2012/05/10 22:21:25
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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Heroic Senior Officer
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DeathReaper wrote:#1 the force weapon only allows access to a different Psychic power. you can still only use one power per turn, (2 if Epistolary)
#2, if you are under Null zone and Fateweaver, you roll all the dice, then re-roll the successful ones because of Null zone, and re-roll the failed ones because of Fateweaver. (Not sure how this is confusing.)
Alternately you could just roll once to save time, as the odds are the same if you roll once and keep the results, or roll once, ignore the first result and re-roll all of the dice. (The FaQ says this as well).
Yep, the FAQ says just roll them once and be done with it.
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2012/05/10 22:28:07
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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K a quick re-read of page 50 means in the below examples my libby could either. And again im new so grit your teeth.
a:
1. Move normally
2. Use smite (ass kick a bit)
3. Assault and use force weapon = possibly ID someone
b:
1. Move normally
2. Use smite (ass kick a bit)
3. assault and not use force weapon because of 1. (epistolary would allow this or a different extra psychic power)
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2012/05/11 00:04:12
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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B. Very clearly B. The rulebook specifically tells you that activating the Force Weapon counts as using a psychic power, and that your normal limits apply.
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2012/05/11 07:23:39
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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k last one.
Using B can I still use the force weapon for the benefits of power weapon?
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2012/05/11 07:49:55
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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Force weapons are power weapons at all times. They simply allow a psychic test for applying ID.
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2012/05/11 08:12:20
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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grr wrote:k last one.
Using B can I still use the force weapon for the benefits of power weapon?
Do you own a copy of the rule book? This is spelled out fairly clear in the book, not to insult or anything but if you are using this forum as a substitute for a copy of the brb then you are going to end up getting more rules wrong the right.
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2012/05/11 14:48:15
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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As brought up in another thread, what can you do in the opponent's assault phase?
Whatever you did in your own turn, can you still use the Force Weapon's power in their's?
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2012/05/11 15:10:43
Subject: noob vanilla marine librarian.
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Whatever powers you have that can be activated in your opponents phases can be used in them.
So in an opponents assault phase I could cast SS, Might of Heroes or use my force weapon.
If I was a BA player I could cast sheild of sanguinius in the shooting phase to give me a save against your fire.
The rules usually state clearly when a power should be taking a psychic check and if they can be used in the opponents phases.
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