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Morning, I will try to be as clear as I can. This example involved a Dark Eldar Razorwing.
This is turn 6 of a game of Orks vs Dark Eldar. Where the Razorwing is sitting in the Ork player deployment zone, its rear armor is facing the right table edge, the side is facing my table edge, sitting on a objective maker. There is a unit of grots hugging the table edge in front, within 3 of the objective, and a big mob of ork boys in front. Boys are spread out, so they are covering lots of room.

Dark Eldar player declares he will advance 3 inches into the boys, so his base covers both the boys and grots, then move 3 inches back to the exact same spot. His reasoning is by doing this, he will be able to drop a void bomb covering both units, and claim that his vehicles has moved 6 inches so he will only be hit on 6's. Reason: he is moved over a unit and moved back so this is allowed.

I indicated I did not agree for several reason: firstly he is moving his model where there is no room to places his base within his declared 3 inches, then hoping back. As a result he has not moved at all. There was also not enough room to move 6 inches, then move 6 inches back. Lastly, my thoughts were: if you could do that, then every skimmer in the game would never move if there was a threat of combat and simple declare "i moved 3, then 3 back."

End result. My opponent retracted. Skimmer got assaulted and destroyed.

Was I correct? Is movement of that type allowed? I know how tanks move normally, but this made no sense IE declaring a move / stop somewhere that the footprint of the vehicles does not fit, then declaring you moved? Just didn't sit right.

It's legal by RAW.
The skimmer rules do not require that the model move any minimum distance to have "moved" and the skimmer can indeed move over friendly or enemy models, but may not stop on top of either.
OTOH, turbo-boosting reqires a minimum movement distance.

He can move X" forward and X" back and drop the voidbomb on a model under that path, but in the end he would count as not having moved at all and it would be hit automatically in the next assault phase.

Correct, fot the assault the actual distance traveled from the original position is used.

Agreed. i am pretty sure i read somewhere that the kind of movement descirbed above is perfectly legal, but does nothgin for as the vehicle will not count as having moved.

copper.talos wrote:He can move X" forward and X" back and drop the voidbomb on a model under that path, but in the end he would count as not having moved at all and it would be hit automatically in the next assault phase.

He'd count as moving for whatever shooting he was going to do, but otherwise 100% correct.

Very true.

But if he moved forward 3" then back 3" and ended 1 mm to the side of where he started, he'd be hit on a 4+ in assault, correct?

racta wrote:But if he moved forward 3" then back 3" and ended 1 mm to the side of where he started, he'd be hit on a 4+ in assault, correct?

Yes.

racta wrote:But if he moved forward 3" then back 3" and ended 1 mm to the side of where he started, he'd be hit on a 4+ in assault, correct?

Yes, because in that case he would have moved at combat speed.

But in the OPs question, the DE player was simply declaring that the skimmer moved and was not actually moving the model. So in that case it would have ended up exactly where it started, so the actual distance traveled would be 0" and it would be auto hit.

Also, note to njpc, your post said he was declaring that he was moving 3" forward and 3" bck. A 6" move would allow the skimmer to be hit on 4+. To be hit on a 6, it would have to move at cruising speed, which is more than 6".

But as I said above, in your post his skimmer didn't actually move any distance at all, so the point is moot, he would be auto-hit in assault.

to be clear: he was boxed in, so he wanted to move 3 up, 3 back to the exact same point of origin. So the actual movement would have been 0.

We were trying to figure it out as it had never really come up before. There was nothing shifty being done, just something odd that we hadn't seen and were trying to work it out to know how to handle it moving forward.

I am in agreeing with the if he can position so he technically has "moved" when coming back, then his on 4+, otherwise auto hit. I would be ok with the bombs dropping too on model he passed over.