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Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Halandri

Games Workshop are clearly producing stock at their capacity rate, yet still sell out. Until they can develop further production facilities (from what I understand the factory is almost constantly running) demand is exceeding supply so the market suggests prices for new releases should be higher.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/01/11 23:05:24


 
   
Made in no
Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets




Plasma weapons should overheat on unmodified hit rolls of 1, that cannot be rerolled
   
Made in nl
Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller






your mind

Hankovitch wrote:
If they have more than 5 wounds, killing an opponent's named character should be worth victory points. Ten thousand orks dying to slay Guilliman is a victory for the orks.

Of course, that comment should be irrelevant, because primarchs shouldn't be playable in matched play.


I agree absolutely.




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 Strg Alt wrote:
 insaniak wrote:
Thanks to the Horus Heresy novels, Ultramarines are actually kind of cool...




 AegisGrimm wrote:

-2nd edition was really not bad to play if everyone involved played with restraint.

So long as you didn't play against Eldar, or either of the two particularly nasty Space Wolf builds, 2nd edition was the bomb.


Playing with restraint is recommended with each edition of 40K as each can be broken by a particular combination of units. 2nd was by far the most detailed version of 40K and thanks to the Dark Millenium boxed set provided you with a plethora of great templates and even rules for constructing your own vehicles. The last one was especially an Ork´s wet dream. And nowadays afaik the Orks can´t even bring a looted wagon to the battlefield. LOL!


After 8th I am even more convinced the 2nd was and remains the best that GW will ever produce. They could resurrect it and retcon all the most recent primaris girlyman bad dream garbage but why waste good... Ummm... Bad IP right? Anyways i wish that they would.


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 Techpriestsupport wrote:
There should be an official inquisitor in 40k names "Obiwan Sherlock Clouseau". He was the first named inquisitor in the original rogue trader book and should be made a character.



He could have the Clouseau rule which means attacks aimed at him have a chance of hitting a nearby friendly model.

And look at this guy, you know you want to paint him.



The RPG elements should return. There should be less board gamey dice rolling math hammer and more identification with the warlord and personalization even where this doesnt add up to win buttons and min max optimization.

Instead GW went the other way with monopose sprue design to ward off second supplier shoulder pad replacement and orher modification and the toyification of ork vehicles with admittedly fun though again monopose buggy designs with trademark names that no one wants to use or remember and special rules that could be associated with hobbyist mods but that are difficult to convert and even worse that go together in an all of nothing SuperBuggy(tm)(cr) prepackage.

Hasbro wanna be posers have taken over the ship.
This is the true Heresy of our era.
Will will stand idly by and see the old gods laid so low for what? Corporate greed?
Do we sell our loyalty to the vision of the emporer for plastic crack and Duncan's voice repeating over and over <paint name> (tm)(cr) thin coats.... Thin coats....
Wake brothers and to arms. Take that snazzwagon(tm) (cr) and cut it up. Chop it in half. Modify it and make it your own for today we hobby and tomorrow GW will have lobbied the thugs in government to make it illegal. It is their IP after all...

Oh and this terrain here. This is hard cover. You get a minus 2 to hit. And cannot target models that are not visible to firing models so without LoS you wont be removing casualties. Yeah my dudes dont run into machine guns from cover just because the rest of their unit got caught in the open and one more thing... Plasma explodes on an unmodified 1. Every time. Just that easy...

O yeah. And every faction has something like plasma. That is some weapon tech that fills a hole in their available tools but that is just outside their abilities to manage and maintain. So orks have lots of gunz that explode on 1s and even eldar have distort cannons which might drift onto their own units if their intended target is close enough due the nature of ripping holes in the fabric of the universe... And so on and so on...
Color does not equal complexity.

This message was edited 6 times. Last update was at 2019/01/13 01:30:10


   
Made in us
Storm Trooper with Maglight




Iowa

The Taurox/Taurox Prime looks fine. Maybe structurally silly with weapons placements, but it is fine looking.

If the truth can destroy it, then it deserves to be destroyed. 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




 Apple Peel wrote:
The Taurox/Taurox Prime looks fine. Maybe structurally silly with weapons placements, but it is fine looking.

I think it would look better with wheels in the front instead of tracks, but keep the tracks in the back. That way it looks like a half track.

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Made in ch
Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos





 jeff white wrote:
Hankovitch wrote:
If they have more than 5 wounds, killing an opponent's named character should be worth victory points. Ten thousand orks dying to slay Guilliman is a victory for the orks.

Of course, that comment should be irrelevant, because primarchs shouldn't be playable in matched play.


I agree absolutely.




Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Strg Alt wrote:
 insaniak wrote:
Thanks to the Horus Heresy novels, Ultramarines are actually kind of cool...




 AegisGrimm wrote:

-2nd edition was really not bad to play if everyone involved played with restraint.

So long as you didn't play against Eldar, or either of the two particularly nasty Space Wolf builds, 2nd edition was the bomb.


Playing with restraint is recommended with each edition of 40K as each can be broken by a particular combination of units. 2nd was by far the most detailed version of 40K and thanks to the Dark Millenium boxed set provided you with a plethora of great templates and even rules for constructing your own vehicles. The last one was especially an Ork´s wet dream. And nowadays afaik the Orks can´t even bring a looted wagon to the battlefield. LOL!


After 8th I am even more convinced the 2nd was and remains the best that GW will ever produce. They could resurrect it and retcon all the most recent primaris girlyman bad dream garbage but why waste good... Ummm... Bad IP right? Anyways i wish that they would.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Techpriestsupport wrote:
There should be an official inquisitor in 40k names "Obiwan Sherlock Clouseau". He was the first named inquisitor in the original rogue trader book and should be made a character.



He could have the Clouseau rule which means attacks aimed at him have a chance of hitting a nearby friendly model.

And look at this guy, you know you want to paint him.



The RPG elements should return. There should be less board gamey dice rolling math hammer and more identification with the warlord and personalization even where this doesnt add up to win buttons and min max optimization.

Instead GW went the other way with monopose sprue design to ward off second supplier shoulder pad replacement and orher modification and the toyification of ork vehicles with admittedly fun though again monopose buggy designs with trademark names that no one wants to use or remember and special rules that could be associated with hobbyist mods but that are difficult to convert and even worse that go together in an all of nothing SuperBuggy(tm)(cr) prepackage.

Hasbro wanna be posers have taken over the ship.
This is the true Heresy of our era.
Will will stand idly by and see the old gods laid so low for what? Corporate greed?
Do we sell our loyalty to the vision of the emporer for plastic crack and Duncan's voice repeating over and over <paint name> (tm)(cr) thin coats.... Thin coats....
Wake brothers and to arms. Take that snazzwagon(tm) (cr) and cut it up. Chop it in half. Modify it and make it your own for today we hobby and tomorrow GW will have lobbied the thugs in government to make it illegal. It is their IP after all...

Oh and this terrain here. This is hard cover. You get a minus 2 to hit. And cannot target models that are not visible to firing models so without LoS you wont be removing casualties. Yeah my dudes dont run into machine guns from cover just because the rest of their unit got caught in the open and one more thing... Plasma explodes on an unmodified 1. Every time. Just that easy...

O yeah. And every faction has something like plasma. That is some weapon tech that fills a hole in their available tools but that is just outside their abilities to manage and maintain. So orks have lots of gunz that explode on 1s and even eldar have distort cannons which might drift onto their own units if their intended target is close enough due the nature of ripping holes in the fabric of the universe... And so on and so on...
Color does not equal complexity.



I wouldn't say this customizable warlord idea is unpopular at all.
Especially for certain armies it was way better, (renegades in 7th) now the index might aswell be named a bunch of murderhobos raided a munitorum Arsenal.

   
Made in gb
Auspicious Daemonic Herald







8th edition is the best edition of 40k ever produced.

There is nothing wrong with min-maxing, soup, aiming to win, etc.

Rules should be tight as possible and followed to the letter.

40k has massively benefitted from the removal of garbage-tier lore like the fabled Obiwan Inquisitor.

The loss of templates and random scatter dice was potentially the greatest triumph for the forces of good in the 21st century.

99.9% of 40k memes are not, and never will be funny. Anyone who still posts Angry Marine/Heresy! memes should be deported to some kind of labour camp.

The Astra Militarum/Imperial Guard community possesses a horrendous tendency to repeat the same jokes, anecdotes and stories - all of which come down to "Isn't it cool that there's normal people fighting against super soldiers!" It's not. It's really, really not.

CAAC is worse than WAAC.

Cheating at tournaments should be some sort of capital offence punished by roaming firing teams.


This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/01/17 01:14:28


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Come up with a cogent argument that doesn't just attack your opponent but rather attacks the points he is making, and show some understanding of what those against the table are saying (it's not about 'Lol complaining about a random table in a game about dice'), or leave the damned thread.

 
   
 
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