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Hi guys,

My Russ arrived yesterday and apart from having a different turret attachment to my Forge World turret (which also doesnt quite fit the hull properly - it catches slightly on some mouldings on the top of the hull) it seems like a great kit.

Just wondering, if i want to build it "reversed" (ie with the bigger section of angled track as the front not the back) is it as simple as gluing the exhausts etc on the other end to the one in the instructions or is it not possible?

Just wondering as it seems to be moudled to only be bult facing one way but I think it looks too "old fashioned" round that way - more like a WW 1 tank with a futuristic turret dumped on top so I would like to do it the other way so it looks more "right" to my eyes.

Any suggestions / hints or should I just go for it?

I mean like this;-



not this;-



(apologies to anyone but they were the best images I could find on Google to show what I meant)

Personally, I would suggest just planning it out on pen and paper, with an accurate as possible drawing of how you want the finished model to look, then plan out from the model, try just dry fitting things in different places to see if it could work out for you, in the end of the day, it could be as simple as you said, glueing parts in other places, if not, you will need to learn how to model with some Plasticard! Good luck, please document everything you attempt with your kit, failed or not, I would love to see how this turns out for you

You could try the "boot camp" forums.

http://z4.invisionfree.com/Boot_Camp/index.php?showtopic=14049

They have a guy who scratchbuilt a similar thing.

Otherwise, look for a "golgotha" pattern leman russ.

The original was done by Velard, and he got a legal letter from GW telling him to "stop it! Stop it right now!".

Cool, thats for that I didnt realise it wasnt the stock Russ kit with some extra armour added on.

Will keep an eye out and keep you guys posted as to how my Reversed Russ goes.

Wonder if that would make it a Ssur Namul?

DavyCookie wrote:Personally, I would suggest just planning it out on pen and paper, with an accurate as possible drawing of how you want the finished model to look, then plan out from the model, try just dry fitting things in different places to see if it could work out for you, in the end of the day, it could be as simple as you said, glueing parts in other places, if not, you will need to learn how to model with some Plasticard! Good luck, please document everything you attempt with your kit, failed or not, I would love to see how this turns out for you

I very much agree with your point of view

Suggestion:
If you are looking to mimic that look, take a clear look at some of the details which make it work:
1. Tank treads. The top portion is closed off. Its not the typical GT armor tops to the treads. Those headlights... they are landraider headlights, and give the perception of forward.
2. The Driver housing. Its built into a cab with plastic card, and the toper is from the Rhino / SM vehicle accessory sprue.
3. The front mount lascannon is not super hard to do, its enclosed with some plasticard.
4. The sponson and turrent are not a concern.

Do I think its hard, not really, but you'd have to be willing to put in some work to make it look sharp like the picture. I'm actually pretty sure those tank tread tops are actually from the landraider kit, and it was trimmed down to fit.

I did this with a Russ chassis I scavenged from E-bay for cheap. It will look something like this:



It took a bit of fiddling and trimming of tabs, but its not too hard.

I think it would actually look more modern rather than WW1. The tanks in WW1 always had forward sloping tracks, like the Russ, so they don't get stuck when they go into trenches. Later they got rid of that for a better armoured front, like the Chimera or most of the marine tanks, as trenches grew rare because of the afore mentioned tanks crushing them in.

It sounds like a brilliant project. I will return.

Looks cool do it and make it a mans tank!!!!

So...

I have been a bit busy!

This was the original test of how it would look...



And this is how it looks now with the hull gun mount and drivers observation slit fitted.





So far all I have done to it is to carve away most of the moulded on ribs inside the tracks that fit the hull on in the original position and mount the stock hull around the other way, plus create the track guards, I know they arent quite right but they seem to fit right,

The track guards are test-fitted using a "sticky dot" on top of the tracks themselves and are made from a cut-down drinks sachet strip. I got them from the drinks machine at work so I can get a lot of them. Not sure if the front projects up too far beyond the tracks, but the original version projects a bit above the hull at the front as well (albeit not as much). I found a couple of 1:76 tank kits I have never built as well so I may use some parts from them to add stuff onto the Russ (fuel tanks, cargo bins etc) just to make it look like its a working tank and not a new one.

Links appear to be broken.

Should be fixed now hopefully!

Looks good so far.

I have done the top track covers as well but they didnt look quite right so I am going to be starting those again.

Just not 100% sure on the amount the front of the hull projects above the tracks. But then if I push it back much further the rear of the hull will stick out really far so I think i will live with it how it is atm.

Whe I did mine I modified the connection between the upper and lower hulls a bit. It lets you control the gap problem you're describing. I replaced the missing bits with some simple plasticard work.

it is areally nice idea, and it actually makes sense to make a tank with armor that is sloping like that. keep us posted with your work.

Last year I decided that i also wanted reverese leman russes in my army. Started with buying alot of bits, but mostly the front end from the deathstrike/manticore.

Anybody thinking of baby Baneblades when you look at those Russes?

Sort of how the Russ should be thought of in the first place. I like the look of it much more, not to mention the armour angles reflect the armour value a bit better this way.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:Anybody thinking of baby Baneblades when you look at those Russes?

I'm thinking more baby land raiders with turrets.

Looking good, I think you have it now. I would cut all the moulding things from the inside off and glue it. Then it's done in my opinion all it is, is you're putting the tracks on the wrong way. Not much of a difficult thing to do imho.

not to hijack, but where do you get that executioner turret from? When I go on FW, all they have is the weird "Ryza" turret, I can't find that nice Plasma-Cannon-y turret for the Executioner. Thanks!

Twiqbal wrote:not to hijack, but where do you get that executioner turret from? When I go on FW, all they have is the weird "Ryza" turret, I can't find that nice Plasma-Cannon-y turret for the Executioner. Thanks!

From the Executioner model?



It's in the Demolisher box.

I have the FW Ryza Executioner turret, it has the ugly (for want of a better description) "dustbin with pipes" type cannon on it.

Also, rather oddly there seem to be a few issues with it;-
1) it actually fouls the mouldings at the back of the turret mount on the stock GW hull (meaning either the bottom of the turret or the top of the moudlings or both need filing back so the turret can turn)

2) it doesnt use the same type of mount as the GW turret - that uses two tabs that lock the turret onto the hull but the FW one doesn't, it just has a small mount you sit the turret into but this is bigger than the moulded hole so you need to enlarge it (and therefore you cant use a FW turret and a stock GW turret for different versions of a Russ)

3) the gun appears to be a completely different design to the one in the GW kit and its acutally pretty hideous!

I did work out that if you got a few spare mantlets you could you the GW kit itslef and actually have all the versions in the box - provided you could figure out a way to get each gun to drop out of the turret.

Relativity's one appears to be a normal LR and an eradicator (think thats the Nova cannon version?)

I actually prefer the front facing tracks. Reverse tracks remind me too much of a Land Raider.

Just my 02.

looking at that pic of the executioner i think my kit-bash has about the same amount of projection as the stock GW kit would if built properly, looks like mine would be ok.

would agree it looks more like a Land Raider this way around but at the same time it also looks more like something that would be plasible in the 41st century rather than just a WW1 tank with a turret slapped on it - i actually wouldnt be surprised to find out that the Russ design is literally just that!

Right so this is how far I have got with it, i had done the top and rear track covers but they ended up going a bit wrong so I will bet trying these again.

In Eradicator mode;-



Took some with the Exterminator turret on but they came out a bit blurry!

The front HB is on upside down, but otherwise it looks good so far. Any Isometric pics?

might sounds dumb - whats an Isometric pic?

Hadn't realised the HB was around the wrong way, will correct that.

The HB and sponson guns are very well designed as stock in the kit - they are literaly slot-in, slot-out jobbies so very easy to have different guns in without the need to magnatize.

And, unlike the Sentinel instructions, the ones in the Russ tell you what each gun is under its picture, with the Sentinel you have to guess as to what is the multi-laser and what is the lascannon. Hence I got mine wrong!

The turret still looks too far to the front. You need to work on the middle piece. Refer to the pic in the OP for inspiration.