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There's a list in the Black Templars armoury (pg. 26 of Codex: Black Templars) labeled "Wargear - Relics and Artefacts". The list lists a couple of items, including the Iron Halo. Above the list, in brackets, the Codex states:

Black Templars Codex wrote:Each army may have a single item from this list

My question is: Does High Marshal Helbrecht's Iron Halo count as this single item or not? The way I see it there's 2 possible interpretations:

1: Helbrecht's Iron Halo counts, no item on the list may be taken.

2: Helbrecht's Iron Halo doesn't count, as he hasn't purchased it from the list in the armoury. As such, one item from the list may be taken.

Which one's correct?

I think special characters are an exception to the rule. But it could go either way.

I'd go with n2 myself - you haven't picked the item from the armory, Helbrecht already has it when bought.

I'm a believe that numbers are, in fact, numbers. A limit of 1 means "no more than 1".

Space Wolves have a special exception to this in their rules, which makes sense, because Space Wolves are underpowered and need all the help they can get, unlike Black Templars who are clearly overpowered, especially their amazing psychic powers and better-than-Eldrad psychic defense....

I would say if the item wasn't purchased from that list it doesn't count toward the limit. If Helbrecht had the option to buy an Iron Halo at the listed cost from the armory it would be a different story.

The army contains an Iron Halo. You're only allowed one, no matter who carries it.

It’s a bit of a silly rule since the emperor’s champion also has an iron halo and the model is not optional.

Ma55ter_fett wrote:It’s a bit of a silly rule since the emperor’s champion also has an iron halo and the model is not optional.

The Emperor's Champ does not have an Iron Halo. The Armour of Faith replicates its effect, but he is not given one, nor may he recieve one.

Back to the original problem, wargear that is attached to a character is not considered as "bought".

Irrelevant. It states each army may HAVE one item from the list, not may BUY one item from the list.

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Back to the original problem, wargear that is attached to a character is not considered as "bought".

Being bought isn't the issue. The Relics list doesn't say that you may only select one of those items, it says that the army can only include one of them. That language doesn't care if it comes from the armoury or not. Your army can only include one Iron Halo.

This is answered in the Dark Eldar FAQ, which you can find here

Q: Some wargear is limited to a maximum of one per
army. If a special character is equipped with such a
piece of wargear, does that count as towards the army
total? (p56)
A: Yes it does. If you include Urien Rakarth, for
example, you will be unable to take a Casket of
Flensing elsewhere in the army.

Since the question isn't codex specific, I believe it should apply.

Yep. GW has FAQed it before exactly as it is in the Dark Eldar FAQ.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Irrelevant. It states each army may HAVE one item from the list, not may BUY one item from the list.

As Helbrechts Halo is from his unit entry and not from the list I don't see the conflict. The FAQ however doesn't seem to leave much wiggle room.

zeshin wrote:As Helbrechts Halo is from his unit entry and not from the list I don't see the conflict.

If you take Helbrecht, does your army include an Iron Halo?

zeshin wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:Irrelevant. It states each army may HAVE one item from the list, not may BUY one item from the list.

As Helbrechts Halo is from his unit entry and not from the list I don't see the conflict. The FAQ however doesn't seem to leave much wiggle room.

So he has an iron halo that isnt an iron halo?

Iron Halo is an item on the list. Helbrecht has an Iron Halo. That is your one item in the army from that list

Gotta agree with the rules gurus here. The wording leaves absolutely no wiggle room whatsoever: the army may only have a single Iron Halo at all. It has nothing to do with whether the Halo was purchased or not.

If you take a look at Grimaldus his holy relic is noted as being an exception to the "1 per army" rule. there is no similar note in Helbrecht's entry and given the evidence by others I would say that Helbrecht's iron halo can be the only one if you field him.

Eh personally i sadly have to agree that the limit is one but helbrect stinks anyway take a reg marshal with a SS and a Mantle better that way

The halo takes up the 1 per army. Besides, if you are running Helbrecht, I doubt you would want to sink points into another HQ with a Iron Halo.

EmperorsChampion wrote:The halo takes up the 1 per army. Besides, if you are running Helbrecht, I doubt you would want to sink points into another HQ with a Iron Halo.

Iron Halo, no. Adamantine Mantle, yes.

Cain wrote:Eh personally i sadly have to agree that the limit is one but helbrect stinks anyway take a reg marshal with a SS and a Mantle better that way

He doesn't stink very much when you've already got an Adamantine Mantle Marshal and want to unlock a second command squad, does he?

insaniak wrote:

zeshin wrote:As Helbrechts Halo is from his unit entry and not from the list I don't see the conflict.

If you take Helbrecht, does your army include an Iron Halo?

I disagree with the premise of the question but as I said the FAQ seems ironclad (iron-halo'd?).

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

EmperorsChampion wrote:The halo takes up the 1 per army. Besides, if you are running Helbrecht, I doubt you would want to sink points into another HQ with a Iron Halo.

Iron Halo, no. Adamantine Mantle, yes.

Cain wrote:Eh personally i sadly have to agree that the limit is one but helbrect stinks anyway take a reg marshal with a SS and a Mantle better that way

He doesn't stink very much when you've already got an Adamantine Mantle Marshal and want to unlock a second command squad, does he?

Yes, he still stinks. You can take a castellan in addition to the marshal for alot less points than Helbretch. Of course, I only run two command squads when they're terminators with 2 cyclones and tank hunters.