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Bit confused on the monster and handler rules. Always heard that if the monster takes an unsaved wound from shooting, that one of the handlers takes it on a 5+ instead. Looked at the rule, and it says simply that any unsaved wound is taken on a handler on a 5+, not just shooting. Does that mean I can use it any time, even in combat?

Also, if a monster/handler unit gets hit with pit of shades, do you use the init of the monster, or the handlers if its higher? (Hellcannon, hydra, ect)

scubasteve04 wrote:Bit confused on the monster and handler rules. Always heard that if the monster takes an unsaved wound from shooting, that one of the handlers takes it on a 5+ instead. Looked at the rule, and it says simply that any unsaved wound is taken on a handler on a 5+, not just shooting. Does that mean I can use it any time, even in combat?

Yes.

scubasteve04 wrote:Also, if a monster/handler unit gets hit with pit of shades, do you use the init of the monster, or the handlers if its higher? (Hellcannon, hydra, ect)

It's always the monster's stat, the handlers are ignored they can't even be killed by the pit as it can't hit them, if it wounded the 5+ would work but it doesn't.

It should be noted that DE Hydra handlers can never be targeted or hit iirc. They exist solely for the extra attacks.

Salamanders for example are monstrous artillery and have misfires, so the crew actually serve a purpose there. Iirc those can be hit as normal crew for war machines are.

Aerethan wrote:It should be noted that DE Hydra handlers can never be targeted or hit iirc. They exist solely for the extra attacks.

Salamanders for example are monstrous artillery and have misfires, so the crew actually serve a purpose there. Iirc those can be hit as normal crew for war machines are.

Sorta sallies follow the monster and handlers USR in the BRB, the hydra OTOH has it's own rule that overwrites that.