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Quick question guys, in 40k when you off a daemon, I'm almost positive it dissapears back into the warp. However, since daemons are sorta walking around and existing in the fantasy setting, does the same happen? I'd like to know if, for example, ogres could eat a bloodthirster after killing it.
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It honestly depends on who is writing the fluff. There are some heroes walking around the Warhammer world with daemon skulls on their belts or mounted on their hearth walls.
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deathholydeath wrote:It honestly depends on who is writing the fluff. There are some heroes walking around the Warhammer world with daemon skulls on their belts or mounted on their hearth walls.
I do recall in the old OK rulebook it talked about how an avalanche crushed and buried a lot of daemons. I recall it saying it in such a way that it didn't imply they got sent back. I also know chaos spawn tentacles are considered a delicacy amongst tyrants, but I don't think those are truly daemons...are they?
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deathholydeath wrote:It honestly depends on who is writing the fluff. There are some heroes walking around the Warhammer world with daemon skulls on their belts or mounted on their hearth walls.
I do recall in the old OK rulebook it talked about how an avalanche crushed and buried a lot of daemons. I recall it saying it in such a way that it didn't imply they got sent back. I also know chaos spawn tentacles are considered a delicacy amongst tyrants, but I don't think those are truly daemons...are they?
I'd say it's kinda half and half, the more important daemons get called back, while the weakest, the newest, those who havn't made names for themselves get killed, get respawned as another type of daemon, and try and fight on again.
Chaos spawn are daemons, and they destabilize when they die, though you can still cut things off these types before they'll go back.
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Yea spawn where mortal at some point, as for the corpse thing it's chaos some times there is some times there isn't, totally depends on the demon and how strong a body he was able to manifest.
It is made clear however that their souls go back to the chaos realm and are able to come back and fight later.
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If physics is physics, they are removed completely. Since Daemons are immortal and can reappear infinite times in the physical world, if they even left behind one atom they would be violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy which states energy (matter) stays constant over time. Aka you can't create matter or energy out of nothing and can't destroy it.
Each time they died and came back, if they left, say a skull, or a corpse, fast forward a few million years and the planet would literally be choked with Daemon corpses. They would "win" simply by virtue of burying us under a pile of useless matter. And that goes for the entire non Realm of Chaos universe. A million billion zillion years in the future there would be no void of space, just daemon corpses and planets.
DukeRustfield wrote:If physics is physics, they are removed completely. Since Daemons are immortal and can reappear infinite times in the physical world, if they even left behind one atom they would be violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy which states energy (matter) stays constant over time. Aka you can't create matter or energy out of nothing and can't destroy it.
Each time they died and came back, if they left, say a skull, or a corpse, fast forward a few million years and the planet would literally be choked with Daemon corpses. They would "win" simply by virtue of burying us under a pile of useless matter. And that goes for the entire non Realm of Chaos universe. A million billion zillion years in the future there would be no void of space, just daemon corpses and planets.
That would be fine and dandy if magic didn't bend physics over and Rodger it good.
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My guess is that if you are able to take a part of a daemon in question you would prevent it from going back.
With a Greater Daemon maybe the body just remains on the planet until the Daemon comes back. So someone has a trophy and one day it disappears, so you know that big bad daemon your grandfather killed is coming back to kill you
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In the old Ogre book there is a item that talks about ritualistically prepared daemon meat that a Tyrant can eat. I am guessing the daemon is not alive when this happens
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You mean the Hellheart?
Thats the heart of a Chaos Spawn who was a Sorceror in mortal life.
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Yeah, Daemon Scars.
But that was done with Daemon Blood poured into ritual cuts, sort of a primative tattoo.
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I read something about daemon ichor and something used by "dark wizards." They obviously aren't thinking much about physics when they write fantasy.
But if they came back and either occupied or removed their same body it would alleviate a lot of problems.
As for warpstone, that's taken from one place (moon) or wind pockets, and deposited. It's then used/consumed or otherwise dealt with. Though I guess the winds themselves violate the Law as you can create matter/energy/magic out of them.
Of course, a generic fantasy wizard casting a fireball breaks the Law as unless he's doing some E=mc^2 conversion of his beard or something, that fire has to be converted from somewhere.
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Thats one reason I kinda liked the Eragon books. They, kinda, didn't violate the laws of thermodynamics.
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Grey Templar wrote:My guess is that if you are able to take a part of a daemon in question you would prevent it from going back.
With a Greater Daemon maybe the body just remains on the planet until the Daemon comes back. So someone has a trophy and one day it disappears, so you know that big bad daemon your grandfather killed is coming back to kill you
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