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Hi all

Firstly a massive thanks to the people who have helped me out with the list already, 15mm WWII has a fantastic community that I am excited to be involved in.

Now then on to business. I would like to paint my miniatures as historically accurate as possible, i have started researching things but to be honest the wealth on information is a little overwhelming. Here is what I have in the list what would you recommend as the best army/company paint scheme?

Company HQ, 225 pts
1 Tiger I E

Schwere Panzer Platoon - 430 pts
2 Tiger I E

Schwere Panzer Platoon - 430 pts
2 Tiger I E

Motorised Artillery Battery - 220 pts
1 HQ Section
2 Gun Section
2 10.5cm leFH18 howitzer

Schwere Panzer Pioneer Platoon - 190 pts
1 HQ Section
Schwimmwagen
3 Pioneer Squads
Sd Kfz 251/7 (Pioneer) half-track


Apologies for the lack of information provided as I say I'm experiencing a case of far too much info

I'd say, go with red. Because You know - da red unz go fasta! And they are Your miniatures, so You can paint them as You wish.
Also check out this marvelous thread as an outstanding example of holywar regarding historical paint schemes .
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/150/435713.page#4041652

While I appreciate the comment, my main interest in this game is to have a historically accurate force, to the extent of my meagre painting abilities so no unfortunately no red tigers.

So You are searching for photos or the recipe of Dunkelgelb? Because with Tigers (Late War), the Dunkelgelb is the only way to go to paint Your armor and halftracks.

Well as I remember by this peroid almost all front line vehicles would be a base coat of dunkel gelb from the factory , a sand yellow colour. Most AFV's were also issued with tins of brown and green and sand to add on themselves. They were like tins of shoe polish that should be mixed with fuel to be applied, but to save on this, were often mixed with old engine oil or water giving a varied tone. It could be applied by the crew or engineers, either by brush or air spray. It was very varied.

Alot of tank crews in the west at least favoured ambush pattern, patches of green and brown overlaid with sand speckles, to simulate the dapple effect of foliage.

Essentially there were no set guides for the Germans and the designs were most often left to the individual crews, although the better equiped ss often had slightly more uniformed patterns. The Germaans also made heavy use of foliage, to add to the effect of the camo.

Hope that helps a bit, google ambush pattern may give you an idea.

As you have Tigers, then you cant do Ambush scheme.

The September 1944 Ambush scheme was applied at the factories to set patterns dependant on the factory. As Tiger Is had ceased production by then, none ever recieved the ambush camo scheme.

The most widely used scheme would be a dunkelgelb base with rot brun and olive grun over spray;



This is the usual scheme for Tiger IEs and its not the ambush scheme. The ambush scheme has small flecks of the base colour added to the overspray.

Guns and softskins were generally left in a simply dunkel gelb onetone but were occasionaly camo'ed though often with a single overspray of olive grun.

251s would get the tri-colour scheme but also can be in plain dunkel gelb;

Thanks a lot guys, I think that a winter themed army would look amazing so will attempt to paint the vehicles in typical camoflage of the period and then give heavy snow weathering effect

oops id forgotten all the tigers! But I like the German army for giving a bit of variety to ww2. Plus if your using winter camo you can do the basic paint job and simply dab on or brush stroke some white, Most of the pic's ive seen are fairly haphazard, although one or two did seem properly spayed. I used to like adding that rubber lichen stuff, some of mine were like moving hedges lol.

This was quite handy for the tigers
http://www.alanhamby.com/paints.shtml

I done quite a bit of weathering with masking and marmite (don't ask) with my black templars, its an ash wastegroung themed army so lots of dust.

The masking tape gives a nice impression that the weathing was rubbed off to show the iconography of the regiment.

When my bits and bats arrive I plan on setting up a blog/tutorial to show how I achieve the effect, have to find a nice camera first however

Marmite? Now theres something you dont usually associate with model painting!

I have used toothpaste before as well, but tend to use that to strip the paint off rather then get a chipping effect. It basically acts as a buffer between the two sets of paint and allows you to scrub off and chip the bits you want with more detail then using a sponge/wire wool ect ect.

Its a pretty old technique that I picked up playing Necromunda about 12 years ago, has served me well since.

Check this out

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/439452.page#4116046

Thats pretty much the look that I am aiming for, since the winter camo was rather slapped on there isn't much need for a great deal of effort with the actual application of the winter camo mor ethe effect of making it look like its been applied, then rubbed or faded off.

Its going to be fun getting the colour of the white wash as its not going to be pure white (I hope) so dirty snow will make and appearance.

As you may be able to tell, I'm pretty excited about this project

Cool, its good to be excited!

Im v tempted to go back to ww2, either fow or back to the 1/300 i used to do with spearhead.

Il add you so can keep track of how it goes

Ah crap, pressure on now I have a follower lol.

I highly recommend the Warpaint sprays from Battlefront. However, my experience with the German Armor and American Armor colors is that they are kind of thin. The German armor will go over a primer coat of brown quite nicely though.

I should be ok with colours, as I have a bucket load of various citadel paints as well as other dropper bottle paints whose name escapes me at this moment in time (Mega Paint Deals for xmas most I not even touched)

Brother Malleus wrote:I should be ok with colours, as I have a bucket load of various citadel paints as well as other dropper bottle paints whose name escapes me at this moment in time (Mega Paint Deals for xmas most I not even touched)

Iyanden Darksun Foundation paint, followed by Desert Yellow with Bleached Bone drybrush worked fine for me - that's before any shading etc.

I was thinking more along the lines of Gretchin Green, then Darksun followed by Khremi Stone with extreme highlights of Rotting flesh which will give me a more green style to the dunkelgelb. Its just the infantry that I'm considering at the moment whether to paint matching garb to the tanks or to go darker for a nice contrast to the mostly white and grey/clay mud bases

I found the sand by miniature paints made a very good dunkel gelb and you do get quite a bit for the money.

I always think that since crews would often work on their own tanks and the effects of wear,weather etc you can get away with quite a variety of shades and colours.

Hi Brother Malleus,

I know this thread is about painting, but I was just wondering if you've managed to use this army in anger yet?


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Lol, sorry just noticed that your last thread is dated yesterday, so I'm guessing no, you haven't had a chance...apologies.

I'd be interested to know when you do use them as i'm thinking of a similar list.

I must admit I wouldnt fancy facing a tiger list at this level of game! Last time I played a similer game we had 4 tigers vs about 24 t34's I think the kill ratio was 12;1 to the tigers!

I have had the chance but I don't like playing with unpainted armies, for me the painting and finished product is far more satisfying then playing a game, my biggest loss was my favourite battle (both 40k and WHFB) as a battle between two painted armies on a well painted table with terrain makes the situation so much better in my opinion.

Also at the moment everyone at my LGC is really into Infinity which doesn't appeal to me, so it will be rare that I get to play without travelling 50-60 miles for a battle so a lot of plannng will need to take place before my Panzerkompanie take to the field :(


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I have just realised something, because this was all previously painted and has mostly been stripped I am going to have to hand paint the motif's and tank numbers.

Are there any rules/guidlines regarding the tank numbering scheme that I should be aware of, also where ideally would I need to place the Balkan crosses?

There is far more detail and planning going into these models then I first appreciated

I found this that may help you with markings

http://members.shaw.ca/grossdeutschland/vehicle.htm

+1, Perfect thank you, exactly what I was looking for. I also found out that the club has a copy of the GW Compilation so will probably have to make a few changes at some point in the future (like a full Pioneer Platoon and some trucks rather then the half tracks)