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Hey guys, not sure if this is in the right place, but I could use some advice. I've been offered $120 (Australian) for the following models, but based on past and current retail prices I think the offer is too low. Especially since he wants 100+ bits with it.

All the models are all in good condition (despite them being assembled and randomly painted in places). Note that although two scout snipers are missing goggles and two terminators are missing Crux Terminatus shoulderpads, I have the parts (they just aren't glued on at the moment).
And no plastic glue, I only ever use superglue.

Costs listed = at time of purchase/current (not sure which I should go by):

3x Terminator wih Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
2x Terminator wih Lightning Claws



RETAIL PRICE: $65/$74

4x Terminator wih Storm Bolter and Power Fist
4x Terminator wih Assault Cannon and Chain Fist
2x Terminator wih Storm Bolter, Power Sword and Small Banner



RETAIL PRICE: $130/$148

6x Assault Marine with Bolt Pistol and Chainsword
2x Assault Marine with Flamer
1x Assault Marine with Bolt Pistol, Power Fist and Small Banner



RETAIL PRICE: $81/$99

4x Scout with Bolter
8x Scout with Sniper Rifle
1x Scout with Missile Launcher
2x Scout with Bolt Pistol and Combat Blade





RETAIL PRICE: $105/$123

TOTAL RETAIL PRICE: $381/$444. So the offer is only 31%/27% of total retail price (not counting the 100+ bits).

When it comes to purchasing models second hand, here are the general (albeit unwritten) rules:

- Full retail is never ever used for anything.

- 20% off for models NOS.

- At least 50% off for models that are painted.

- Bits are not worth much unless they're special/heavy weapons.

- I wasn't suggesting full retail prices, only comparing them with his offer. Look at the percentages at the bottom of my post.


- Most of the above models are unpainted or merely primed. Some are partially-painted, only a few are fully painted.


- Maybe one or two bits, but this is what he asked for (keep in mind that with my massive bits box we're easily talking about over a hundred pieces, some fairly big):

"all terminator accesories and weapon options, scouts parts,power armor chainsword and bolt pistol arms.
shoulderpads, bolters,power armor arms for holding bolters, powerfists, powerswords, special weapons and accessories etc."

Look around at all the bits sites, they're cheap but they aren't that cheap. I'm not just going to give all that away.

I would say go $200, $250 tops.

I personally just netted easily $500 worth of models for $275. They were mostly al assebled and some primed, but none painted. So of course value can vary, but at the end of the day if it not a resonable amount omake you want to part with your models, then don't.

I think the offer he gave you is fair, but that's just my take on it. I agree it is well below retail, but resale in this hobby is a hoser. Unless you are a pro-painter (real life pro, not 'say-I'm-a-pro-on-Ebay' pro) painting the models severely detracts from the value. If I buy a model new on the sprue, I can do whatever I want with it. If I buy it already assembled, but unpainted, I don't get any of the options like loadout or positioning. If I buy them already painted, I am going to have to strip down every single one of them before I can even start working on them. If you want to haggle for more payola, that's on you. If he really wants them you can probably get a few more bucks out of him.

But, to be honest, this hobby is a labor of love. If you don't want to sell at that price, don't sell. If you have a better price in mind, I might recommend Ebay.

Yeah the models are assembled, but I only ever used superglue (specifically so I could switch around parts). Customising loadout/positioning is still fully viable.

And only a few of them are painted. Most are only primed, and the CC terminators/scouts aren't coated at all.



I'm not trying to wrangle more money out of him for the hell of it, I legitimately don't think his offer is totally reasonable. Especially since it's supposed to cover like 60-70 dollars worth of bits (going by GW web pricing).

For example, if I were making an offer for the models on this page, it'd be 40-45% of retail price at least. Not counting all the extras.

I normally don't like to give more than 50% retail for 40k stuff that I'm buying used. And I don't buy stuff put together with plastic glue anymore. I've been burned too many times on that.

You have pictures and your stuff looks put together reasonably well. Of the stuff put together, it's not slathered with paint. I'd say 50% retail is reasonable.


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Not sure about the bitz though. It mostly depends on what they are.

Negotiations ended up at $180 (47/41 percent of retail price), but then he flat out withdrew the offer...

Apparently he was basing his prices on those of a single shop in my area that once offered me 50c for a $22 metal Librarian, and then would have sold it for about 20x that much. Oh well.

Let's get this straight.

You've got ~$400 retail of stuff.
There are some issues with how it's assembled (crux's on wrong shoulder, poor choices for scout weapons)
Some are painted.
You're including "100+" bits but these bits sound like they're the left-overs from those retail packs.

50% of retail sounds like a decent offer to me.

Yeah, I wouldn't have fone above 1/3 retail on those.

What, just the painted ones?

@Scott: What's wrong with their weapons? Remember that everything can be reconfigured, that's why I use superglue.

Btw I didn't demand $180, he offered it and then changed his mind.

No, the whole lot. Assembled, mixed paint and such. I rarely go over 1/3 unless it is pretty pristine. Space marines especially, since everyone has SM.

Your terminators and scouts can sell for quite a bit since they're unpainted. You'd be surprised how much people are willing pay for assembled.
Also since people are still used to the old prices and if you look at BIN prices, they're still 10%-20% off the old prices, at least in NA, USA/Canada region. (ignore me if you're in europe or austrailia as I don't buy/sell from/to there)

The cheapest BiN is $43 for NiB Assault terminators which is pretty good compared to retail but there's a specific reason for this addressed further down. Assault terminators, dreadnoughts and tactical marine prices are uniquely skewered.
@ everyone but OP:
and yes, shipping is ALWAYS included in the price. No one is dumb enough to pay 20$ for NiB terminators with 30$ shipping and claim he got it for $20.

Back on topic,
What I find works great is offer free shipping but jack up the prices by $5-$8, pending on the cost of shipping. Looks nicer, get more bids.
For the unpainted models, I'd start terminators at $30 or maybe even $25 with free shipping. You don't want to start at $0.01 and end up having to sell it for $5.
Do same with scout, START at 50-60% retail.
For the painted models, they'll go for wayyyyyyy less. We're talkin at most 50% if its painted really well. Partially painted means someone has to finish the job or strip which isn't good.
For the other ones, honestly, you might consider starting at $0.01 or $5 for scouts, $10 for terminators.

Normally, you'd get at least a bite at that price (roughly 50-60% off retail, no shipping fee) but terminator prices have completely been skewered by the AoBR set.
What people do now is buy AoBR and then assault terminator arms and shoulder pads. An assembled set of terminator shoulder pads and weapons would probably be worth as much as your terminators, its gotten so silly.

Ok this response isn't exactly super organized but I hope it's helped at least a bit.

Source: Teal star with 100% posi feedback and an ebay superjew.

Thanks for the advice. Should I try stripping the painted models myself then? I've never done it before.

I wouldn't sell models not fully painted or a squad not uniform, personally I wouldn't buy a squad that has a models arms painted here, his legs and base there, because then I need to find how they were painted and paint the rest as dictated by the couple of models because SM aren't a rag-tag group of militia.

Yes, in a short answer.

I don't think his offer is wholly unreasonable or that you should be insulted by it, but you should definitely come back with a counter offer with the amount that you would reasonably expect for them. Given that many of them are painted to an average standard (especially given that many are only partially painted and do not appear to be properly primed) I would say that you would probably be pushing it to ask for more than $200.00 for this particular set.