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2012/06/02 11:12:58
Subject: Prometheus, I am disappointed (Spoilers) from the start
I went to see Prometheus last night, I had high hopes.
Spoiler:
After leaving the Cinema, my brain has fallen into a state of being unable to ask "Why did you make this?!?!?", I have yet to understand the boring, mind boggling bad plot, which seems to change every 30 minutes. It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with Alien one second, the next BAMM! Just went Bamby Buster on dis Space Jockey, also just as a way to ruin all established Jockey Cannon, Space Jockeys are now really advanced human beings. Wait what? OK, I'll get over that, wait what? Why did that happen, no, no, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE! NO!
Problem 1: Space Jockeys are now Human: Turns out that the Space Jockeys, wait, no, now they are named Engineers are human but are just really tall. They were just wearing armour, and created the Xenomorphs (I think) as an attempt as a Bio-weapon (I think) to kill the humans or create the perfect species (I think).
Problem 2: The film is not an Alien Prequel, no now it is: The film goes from plain out copying the Alien films, to deciding it's not. I honestly had no idea what was happening.
I'm not going to try and explain anything else, I'm too mentally tired to even try.
Please, just watch the trailer, don't go and see this horrid excuse for a film, I honestly tell you that the film is terrible. I have no idea what was going on, I doubt anyone would unless they where high or such.
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2012/06/02 11:29:03
Subject: Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
blood reaper wrote:I went to see Prometheus last night, I had high hopes.
Spoiler:
After leaving the Cinema, my brain has fallen into a state of being unable to ask "Why did you make this?!?!?", I have yet to understand the boring, mind boggling bad plot, which seems to change every 30 minutes. It has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with Alien one second, the next BAMM! Just went Bamby Buster on dis Space Jockey, also just as a way to ruin all established Jockey Cannon, Space Jockeys are now really advanced human beings. Wait what? OK, I'll get over that, wait what? Why did that happen, no, no, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE! NO!
Problem 1: Space Jockeys are now Human: Turns out that the Space Jockeys, wait, no, now they are named Engineers are human but are just really tall. They were just wearing armour, and created the Xenomorphs (I think) as an attempt as a Bio-weapon (I think) to kill the humans or create the perfect species (I think).
Problem 2: The film is not an Alien Prequel, no now it is: The film goes from plain out copying the Alien films, to deciding it's not. I honestly had no idea what was happening.
I'm not going to try and explain anything else, I'm too mentally tired to even try.
Please, just watch the trailer, don't go and see this horrid excuse for a film, I honestly tell you that the film is terrible. I have no idea what was going on, I doubt anyone would unless they where high or such.
2012/06/02 18:26:22
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
What the hell dude. I have no clue what your complaining about. Could you rephrase? Are you mad because it's an Alien rip-off, or because it's an Alien prequel? Because it's been known since 2009 that it would take place in the same universe, but as it's own mythology...
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
2012/06/02 18:49:34
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Kovnik Obama wrote:What the hell dude. I have no clue what your complaining about. Could you rephrase? Are you mad because it's an Alien rip-off, or because it's an Alien prequel? Because it's been known since 2009 that it would take place in the same universe, but as it's own mythology...
I'm annoyed because the film is poor, borrows from Alien, ruins established canon and has a mess of a plot.
The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy.
2012/06/02 18:52:22
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
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2012/06/02 19:44:02
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Kovnik Obama wrote:What the hell dude. I have no clue what your complaining about. Could you rephrase? Are you mad because it's an Alien rip-off, or because it's an Alien prequel? Because it's been known since 2009 that it would take place in the same universe, but as it's own mythology...
I'm annoyed because the film is poor, borrows from Alien, ruins established canon and has a mess of a plot.
"Borrows from Alien"?
Borrows from Alien?!?!?
You do understand the importance of Ridley Scott returning to start playing again in the universe which he created right? Right?!
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2012/06/02 20:08:24
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
I haven't seen it. Care to elaborate a bit on that critic? If not, you've pretty much just piqued my interest and failed completly at your original intent of making me avoid it...
[...] for conflict is the great teacher, and pain, the perfect educator.
2012/06/02 20:27:40
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Kovnik Obama wrote:I haven't seen it. Care to elaborate a bit on that critic? If not, you've pretty much just piqued my interest and failed completly at your original intent of making me avoid it...
That's fine with me, I believe in my opinion it's a horrid film, but you can go see it and like it if you wish.
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2012/06/03 00:19:33
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Kovnik Obama wrote:What the hell dude. I have no clue what your complaining about. Could you rephrase? Are you mad because it's an Alien rip-off, or because it's an Alien prequel? Because it's been known since 2009 that it would take place in the same universe, but as it's own mythology...
I'm annoyed because the film is poor, borrows from Alien, ruins established canon and has a mess of a plot.
What established canon? Where in Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection was it ever established who the Jockey was, why it was there, what kind of being it was etc.?
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2012/06/03 11:35:32
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Kovnik Obama wrote:What the hell dude. I have no clue what your complaining about. Could you rephrase? Are you mad because it's an Alien rip-off, or because it's an Alien prequel? Because it's been known since 2009 that it would take place in the same universe, but as it's own mythology...
I'm annoyed because the film is poor, borrows from Alien, ruins established canon and has a mess of a plot.
What established canon? Where in Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection was it ever established who the Jockey was, why it was there, what kind of being it was etc.?
It was only seen for about a minute in Alien, as the The Pilot fossil. It was never mentioned again after that, so there is no canon surrounding it (Unless you consider one or two comics in the expanded universe as canon).
2012/06/03 13:59:12
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Kovnik Obama wrote:What the hell dude. I have no clue what your complaining about. Could you rephrase? Are you mad because it's an Alien rip-off, or because it's an Alien prequel? Because it's been known since 2009 that it would take place in the same universe, but as it's own mythology...
I'm annoyed because the film is poor, borrows from Alien, ruins established canon and has a mess of a plot.
What established canon? Where in Alien, Aliens, Alien 3 or Alien Resurrection was it ever established who the Jockey was, why it was there, what kind of being it was etc.?
It was only seen for about a minute in Alien, as the The Pilot fossil. It was never mentioned again after that, so there is no canon surrounding it (Unless you consider one or two comics in the expanded universe as canon).
Exactly. The films are the only strictly canonical source of information regarding the Alien franchise, so unless what Scott has done in Prometheus has directly contradicted what is known from the other films then it is not possible for him to have ruined established canon.
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
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2012/06/04 02:20:05
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
The centre of a massive brood chamber, heaving and pulsating.
I've just seen Prometheus and it really blew me away. I particularly liked the end, where we see the origins of the alien itself. I must admit, though, it probably should have been an 18-the Caesarean scene was absolutely hideous.
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2012/06/06 11:04:59
Subject: Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
I respect your right to have an opinion, however next time please choose not to share it on dakka when its ill informed or posted with out coherent thought.
I enjoyed the movie, for everybody else go see it and form your own opinion. Trust in your own judgement !
Having seen the film, I actually get what the OP is trying to say and I don't think he deserves the flaming he is getting.
Firstly, I concur that the film is not that good, save for an excellent performance by Michael Fassbender.
Secondly, it is indeed very confused and I agree that for some sections of the film it appears to be going in a different direction to Alien and in other sections, it is very heavily informed by the 1977 film. It certainly doesn't bridge the plot gap between the two in a satisfying manner.
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Secondly, it is indeed very confused and I agree that for some sections of the film it appears to be going in a different direction to Alien and in other sections, it is very heavily informed by the 1977 film. It certainly doesn't bridge the plot gap between the two in a satisfying manner.
Probably because Scott is trying to do a trilogy or so he says. The alien prequel would logically be the third movie.
2012/06/06 22:55:01
Subject: Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
The film is gak, the plot was fragmented, and boring.
Live with it
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
2012/06/07 01:21:39
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Ma55ter_fett wrote:Careful UK, bash these big hollywood releases much more and they'll stop giving them to you a week early
No loss in this case.
Save your money, don't go see it
Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men. Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
2012/06/07 03:29:42
Subject: Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
I saw the thread title and got worried, as the reviews have been generally positive but still somewhat mixed, so negative response from a fan would be a bad sign. Especially considering tickets for me and the mrs are already booked for Saturday.
Then I saw the complaints given by the OP and was relieved. 'The plot was confusing' and 'I don't like how it changed the backstory from some comic spin-off' and 'I am confused as the relationship between this movie and another work by the same director' absolutely, 100% doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Looking forward to this movie even more now.
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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
2012/06/07 10:16:04
Subject: Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
sebster wrote:I saw the thread title and got worried, as the reviews have been generally positive but still somewhat mixed, so negative response from a fan would be a bad sign. Especially considering tickets for me and the mrs are already booked for Saturday.
Then I saw the complaints given by the OP and was relieved. 'The plot was confusing' and 'I don't like how it changed the backstory from some comic spin-off' and 'I am confused as the relationship between this movie and another work by the same director' absolutely, 100% doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Looking forward to this movie even more now.
The OP was wrong, that doesn't make it a good film.
It was terrible.
2012/06/07 12:23:57
Subject: Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Just saw it myself and it is full of the fails that any sequel/prequel will have unfortunately. My big question is how Shaw is able to run just after having an emergency c-section. In real life a woman is barely able to hobble let alone repel or move a body....
2012/06/08 07:27:41
Subject: Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Pael wrote:Just saw it myself and it is full of the fails that any sequel/prequel will have unfortunately. My big question is how Shaw is able to run just after having an emergency c-section. In real life a woman is barely able to hobble let alone repel or move a body....
Its an Auto-Doc. Shaw didn't actually do any effort herself with regards to the birth, the machine's advanced medical technologies did it itself.
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2012/06/08 07:40:27
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
Kovnik Obama wrote:What the hell dude. I have no clue what your complaining about. Could you rephrase? Are you mad because it's an Alien rip-off, or because it's an Alien prequel? Because it's been known since 2009 that it would take place in the same universe, but as it's own mythology...
I'm annoyed because the film is poor, borrows from Alien, ruins established canon and has a mess of a plot.
QFT you do realize this movie was concieved as a prequel to Alien, right?
2012/06/08 07:55:31
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
I am hoping that this abomination of a film finally puts an end to the Alien franchise once and for all. Ridley Scott, in my opinion has gak on the memories of the previous movies (With the exception of Alien: Ressurection, which was its own flavor of horrible.) to a degree that even exceeds what George Lucas did to Star Wars. Granted, Michael Fassbender's performance was impressive, but it deserved to be in a much better movie.
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2012/06/08 07:57:32
Subject: Re:Prometheus, I am dissipoint (Spoilers) from the start
warpcrafter wrote:I am hoping that this abomination of a film finally puts an end to the Alien franchise once and for all. Ridley Scott, in my opinion has gak on the memories of the previous movies (With the exception of Alien: Ressurection, which was its own flavor of horrible.) to a degree that even exceeds what George Lucas did to Star Wars. Granted, Michael Fassbender's performance was impressive, but it deserved to be in a much better movie.
It topped the charts in many countries. It isn't a failure to any degree.
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