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The dakkajet is displayed in the pictures as not having a cockpit, I feel from a aesthetic point of view that it looks better, because then you get a good view of the cackling pilot.
Now could a Ork survive the kind of speeds it would produce and the G-Forces for some of the manevours mention in the WD 390.

Like the slamming on the air brake and the loop the loops, possible for a ork to survive and still be able to perform as best as a ork can?

The faster they go the better they'd perform! Until they hit something...

Ork pilots often have no windshields in their cockpit due to enemy or "stray" "friendly" fire, pilot smahes it because missing his target or wanting to get a better view of the action.

Mabye so but I'm making a "crack" team of ace pilots. Would they retain some Orky accuracy or not? And can they survive the moves they pull.

I believe black library is reprinting deff skwadron. Deff skwadron has everything everything you need to know about ace fightas and not so ace fightas.

Orks are very sturdy, physically.

I'd doubt that high G and low pressure would affect them as much as a human.

The supersonic bugs in the teeth though...

InquisitorVaron wrote:The dakkajet is displayed in the pictures as not having a cockpit, I feel from a aesthetic point of view that it looks better, because then you get a good view of the cackling pilot.
Now could a Ork survive the kind of speeds it would produce and the G-Forces for some of the manevours mention in the WD 390.

Like the slamming on the air brake and the loop the loops, possible for a ork to survive and still be able to perform as best as a ork can?

I think you mean it lacks a CANOPY over the cockpit. Rather like a WW1 biplane. They looped the loop in them and the pilots stayed in.
It's because of 2 things.
1. Centripetal force.
2. Seatbelts.

Granted, in the case of a neg-G turn, option 1 doesn't do much - this is what option 2) is for.

If it had no cockpit, there'd be no ork in it, cackling with glee or not.

Orks can survive anything because they can. It's a plot thing. G-forces don't exist in 40k (nor does atmospheric physics or aerodynamics unless you are an alien).
Remember, they are ambulatory fungus creatures. Logic shoots itself in the head when it comes to this game.

I always thought this was both interesting and hilarious:

chromedog wrote:Logic shoots itself in the head when it comes to this game.

Good point.

Very derp moment then.
Yes I'm talking about the canopy, but either way I was more talking about the G's involved.

It's okay for the WW1 pilots because they're not hurtling around at massive speeds, they have propellers orks have whacking great big jet engines. The G's involved would be astronimcal.

I know humans can do the manevours I mentioned at jet speed, but they almost black out and they've got a canopy which might reduce some of the G's?

InquisitorVaron wrote:I know humans can do the manevours I mentioned at jet speed, but they almost black out and they've got a canopy which might reduce some of the G's?

Well, if you really worry about the scientific aspect ... it is known that female pilots (in general) can stand more G's than their male counterparts because the distance between the brain and the heart is smaller, meaning the blood doesn't take as long to reach it. Looking at the slumped Orks with their almost non-existing necks, I could perfectly see the same argument being made ... and augmented by orky physiology (wouldn't be surprised if the muscles in their heart would be strong as well!).

No, the canopy does not reduce G-force, it protects the pilot from wind (which would rip a humans flesh off at high speed, as totally deafen him), and to protect against pressure changes at high altitude (so their eardrums dont blow out and their brains don't get sucked out of their ears). People pass out from G-force because fresh blood can't make it to their brain.

Orks have a physiology that largely allows them to shrug off small arms fire, re-attach lost limbs, and continue to talk and complain after their heads have been chopped off. Beyond that the WAAAGH! field helps smooth over minor problems in both physiology and technology. Between the two they are tougher than cockroaches, easily survive crash landings, dismemberment, and hostile environments far in excess of what any human can.

They don't need a canopy because they they are not as susceptible to damage or pressure changes as humans. They can survive higher G-Force maneuvers, again, because of their incredible constitution.

InquisitorVaron wrote:Very derp moment then.


I know humans can do the manevours I mentioned at jet speed, but they almost black out and they've got a canopy which might reduce some of the G's?

Canopy has nothing to do with the G's the pilot can take. Just reduces the wind pressure against him and any drag this adds to the aircraft (cockpit would be nothing but a vortex generator and airscoop without the canopy.

For the G's, that's down to physiology and gear (g-suits). Interestingly, whilst the American focused on getting the gear to allow their pilots to survive high-Gs, the Russians developed a program where the pilots were chosen from those with a higher tolerance to start with (Revealed during the MiG-29 program).
Orks don't need G suits because of their physiology (i's majik, innit? They are mushrooms that can walk, talk and fight.). They can survive traumatic injury that would kill a human. They staple limbs back on and they heal abnormally quickly. A human trying to fly an ork aircraft would be pulped. Orks don't use those rules.

This isn't "TOP GUN", it's fantasy in space. A wizzerd did it.

illuknisaa wrote:I believe black library is reprinting deff skwadron. Deff skwadron has everything everything you need to know about ace fightas and not so ace fightas.

They're reprinting it? Awesome!

I NEED to get me a copy, I loved that book....

Also, at one point in Deff Skwadron (that I remember, there was probably more than one ) Killboy was able to continue flying his fighta bomma after flying through a narrow gap and losing both of his wings. And he also jumped out of a bomma on a bombing run, got eaten by squigs and still came back for more

Somehow, I doubt Orks really care much about such trivial things as "gravity" and, as mentioned above, it really doesn't affect them due to their physiology.