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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 15:12:37
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Are objectives impassible terrain or can you park a LR on it?
Better yet my drop pod scattered onto one what happens do I place it on it? Or move it?
One more thing the size of an objective is a terminator base right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 15:15:18
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Huge Bone Giant
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I have never seen them count as terrain.
They are simply markers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 15:18:26
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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kirsanth wrote:I have never seen them count as terrain.
They are simply markers.
This exactly. The Objectives are just markers and do not affect LoS or movement.
Objectives are usually on Terminator bases, but they can be on whatever you want really.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 15:47:37
Subject: Re:Are Objectives impassible?
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Pete Haines
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Unless of course you use something as a marker that is obviously also terrain. We tend to place important things on the board and never have just empty markers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 15:48:41
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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The new Apocalypse book classifies them as impassable terrain... Might be added to 6th edition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 16:01:43
Subject: Re:Are Objectives impassible?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I would say discuss pre-game.
If you are using actual models, it becomes hard to 'stand' on them. If you are using poker chips or a flat base, it becomes easy.
I can see it to be valid to treat it as 'a model' so you can't walk on it and also treat it as a marker where it has no impact as long as everyone agrees.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 18:01:25
Subject: Re:Are Objectives impassible?
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Fixture of Dakka
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nkelsch wrote:I would say discuss pre-game.
If you are using actual models, it becomes hard to 'stand' on them. If you are using poker chips or a flat base, it becomes easy.
I can see it to be valid to treat it as 'a model' so you can't walk on it and also treat it as a marker where it has no impact as long as everyone agrees.
+1
In friendly games I may use larger 60mm objective markers that are 3D and diffucult for model to be on or over but for tournaments, something similar to a poker chip works fine and can easily have models over it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 19:24:31
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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My group plays that models ignore markers when moving, but cannot end their movement on top of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 19:31:00
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Happyjew wrote:My group plays that models ignore markers when moving, but cannot end their movement on top of them.
That's what my group also does, it easy and doesn't cause to much trouble.
Ignoring them for all purposes also works just fine as does making them impassible.
It really is something to discuss with your group of players or opponent because there really is no actual answer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 19:31:36
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Terrain itself(any kind) can be objectives.
Objectives are not single points on the table, nor are they necessarily models/the green objective markers sold by GW.
Objectives are whatever are declared/agreed upon by you and your opponent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 22:00:42
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Stormin' Stompa
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Kommissar Kel wrote:Terrain itself(any kind) can be objectives.
Objectives are not always single points on the table but they can be, nor are they necessarily models/the green objective markers sold by GW.
Objectives are whatever are declared/agreed upon by you and your opponent.
Small addition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/03 22:29:27
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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There has really been no consensus on this. Objectives can be quarters, slips of paper, piles of modelled equipment, 1:1 scale bolter shells, etc. But they have always been considered counters, and cohnters have no effect on gameplay.
So if you want to land a drop pod on one, go ahead. Its already immobilized and make an easier target to clear off the objective than say a land raider. Just replace the marker with a piece of paper to put underneath so when the pod is blown up, the marker may be replaced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/04 00:34:04
Subject: Are Objectives impassible?
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Tilter at Windmills
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The rulebook specifies that an objective is a point on the table, and may be marked by a counter, or may be a designated point on a piece of terrain (like a doorway or antenna on a building, for example).
Given the above, it is clearly not impassible by default. You can make a small piece (or point on a larger piece) of impassible terrain an objective if you like, of course.
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