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HQ
Logan Grimnar

Njal Stormcaller (Runic Terminator Armour)

Troops

Grey Hunters x 8 (Plasma Gun)

Elites

Wolf Guard x 5 (Terminator Armour) (4 x Wolf Claws) (2x Storm Shield) (Frost Blade) (Thunder Hammer)

Wolf Guard x 5 (Terminator Armour) (4 x Wolf Claws) (2x Storm Shield) (Frost Blade) (Thunder Hammer)

Heavy Support

Land Raider Crusader (Extra Armour) (Multi-Melta)

Land Raider Redeemer (Extra Armour) (Multi-Melta)

Dedicated Transport

Rhino

please do not post indvidual point cost for everything as this is against GW IP an forum rules. Also logan makes wolf guard into troops.

Looks Good.

One thing though. Frost blades are not as good as Wolf Claws, but they are still expensive. Do the math, to wound toughness 4 with a frost blade, you need a 3+. That's 66%. But if you re-roll wounds with the wolf claw, it's 75% chance to hit. And the Frost Blades cost 5 points more than the WC.

Also, you're going to have trouble against lists with lots of armor 12+ vehicles. I think you need more melta, but I could be wrong.

EDIT: One other thing, Njal can't use his psychic shooting attacks like Jaws and Lightning from the Land Raiders because they don't have fire points, and he can't load into the Rhino with Terminator armor on. What are you going to do with him?

Way to many points sunk into to few models.

You have almost 1100pts in four models.

Just. Four. Models.

I have no idea who the dedicated rhino is for.

I have no idea whats going to go into what.

Thats like around 1/3 spent on HQ. Go for a normal RP

I assume that you wanted to play a fluffy "Herohammer" game with this list right? If so, then this list is fine. But if you want a truly competetive list, lose the special characters and go with plain vanilla HQ's

This was intended as a special character army, the Grey Hunters would go into the Rhino, the units of terminators into the Land Raiders. I will edit all my list and drop the values out I didn't think it would be an issue personally I think you can interpret people's lists knowing what points they have sunk into what but rules are rules I guess.


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Grugknuckle wrote:Looks Good.

One thing though. Frost blades are not as good as Wolf Claws, but they are still expensive. Do the math, to wound toughness 4 with a frost blade, you need a 3+. That's 66%. But if you re-roll wounds with the wolf claw, it's 75% chance to hit. And the Frost Blades cost 5 points more than the WC.

Also, you're going to have trouble against lists with lots of armor 12+ vehicles. I think you need more melta, but I could be wrong.

EDIT: One other thing, Njal can't use his psychic shooting attacks like Jaws and Lightning from the Land Raiders because they don't have fire points, and he can't load into the Rhino with Terminator armor on. What are you going to do with him?

The idea with this list was to rush the enemy as fast as possible and to get the units of terminators into combat quickly, Njal will be in a unit of 5 terminators Logan in the other unit of 5. You are right about maybe not having enough heavy fire power to take on vehicles but this list is more a list for fun and to incorporate both Njal and Logan, List 2 which I have posted on here too is alot more versatile. Take a look at that and tell me what you think.

This type of list was more effective in the last edition then the current one. Anti-Vehicle weapons are abundant in the current meta game in almost every army available.

At 1750, relying on 2 AV14 vehicles to do all the work, just gives me 2 targets to focus on. Once they're popped I have 2 units to focus fire on and then 70% of your army is out of the way. Then all I have left to deal with is 1 Grey Hunter Pack in a Rhino.

If you're looking to do this small model count terminator list look into GK's they just do it so much better and more effectively then SW do. If you want to stick with SW and want something that's really going to hurt, you'll need to modify this build greatly and greater diversify the pain across all your units and not just focus on 2 death star units.

Honestly, you can never go wrong taking boat loads of grey hunters and long fangs.

Fexor wrote:This type of list was more effective in the last edition then the current one. Anti-Vehicle weapons are abundant in the current meta game in almost every army available.

At 1750, relying on 2 AV14 vehicles to do all the work, just gives me 2 targets to focus on. Once they're popped I have 2 units to focus fire on and then 70% of your army is out of the way. Then all I have left to deal with is 1 Grey Hunter Pack in a Rhino.

If you're looking to do this small model count terminator list look into GK's they just do it so much better and more effectively then SW do. If you want to stick with SW and want something that's really going to hurt, you'll need to modify this build greatly and greater diversify the pain across all your units and not just focus on 2 death star units.

Like I said above this really isn't my 'main' list it's more a fun list to use now and then, if you check out List 2 that I uploaded on here that's a much more rounded list.