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Lost in time and space...

Hi every one.

It's been quite some time since I last played 40K, and I'm slowly getting back to the rules and such. Now the list I'm trying to get to work is the Eldar Corsairs from the latest IA book, the doom of Mymeara.
One of the abilities of the "main" HQ in the list is to call down a "Void strike" attack from a craft in low orbit, but I can't really figure out how it works.

Is the range infinite? do I need line of sight? can I modify the scatter roll with the Prince's BS? Can I fire it from a Corsair falcon? (no fire points) Can I fire it on the move? Can I assault afterwards? I believe it should follow all the usual rules for shooting, but I'm not too familiar of using Ordnance class weapons on a foot model...

Can't give too many details, so can anyone who's got the book help me out?
Cheers!

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It's a bit sloppily done, I would assume it has infinite range, really they should have specified a range even if they specified infinite, there's really no way to resolve the situation short of making an assumption, because there's no precedent for how to handle a weapon that simply has no range value.

Beyond that though, it says "the normal rules for making a shooting attack apply where relevant" so simply treat it as though he were firing a gun with the profiles listed, this means yes he does need line of sight. I'm not sure what bearing the weapons being Ordnance has on him, Ordnance weapons don't specify they can't be fired on the move in the core rulebook, so I think he could use it after moving.

Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).


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I'd assume it followed the same (or similar) rules for the imperial guard's master of ordnance.

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edbradders wrote:I'd assume it followed the same (or similar) rules for the imperial guard's master of ordnance.


The difference is the MOO specifically states he cannot fire if he moved within his own special rules, the Corsair lacks such a condition.

Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).


-Jeremy Vetock, only man at Games Workshop who understands Zooming Flyers 
   
Made in se
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Lost in time and space...

How about the Space marines? I think one of their characters has the ability to call down an orbital strike or such as well. Does he have to stand still as well?

As already said though, the Corsair Prince lacks a bit of clarification :/

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My gallery (WIP)

Kirasu wrote:
The imperial guard are not the allies nor the axis... they use tanks from 1918, plasma guns from the future, have russian commissar commanders and then went to the shire and recruited FRODO BAGGINS to be a sniper..
 
   
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Ironically, the rule book says that Ordnance weapons are too large to be carried by infantry and must be mounted on vehicles. Then again, it's not the prince that's carrying it, he's just using the target designator.

However, if you read between the lines, since it's depicted as a personal weapon he can't use his lasblaster in the same round (though why you'd ever spend 2 points for that weapon is beyond me). Naturally a weapon must be barrage to not require line of sight.

In it's essence, you're expected to make allowances to make some rules work. Simple as. It's a game, not a courtroom.

I really need to stay away from the 40K forums. 
   
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Enigma wrote:How about the Space marines? I think one of their characters has the ability to call down an orbital strike or such as well. Does he have to stand still as well?

As already said though, the Corsair Prince lacks a bit of clarification :/


His also explicitly states he has to stand still, interestingly it notes that he is allowed to charge after firing the weapon though, which must mean Ordnance weapons aren't bound by the usual restrictions on heavy weapons (as strange as that might seem).

Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).


-Jeremy Vetock, only man at Games Workshop who understands Zooming Flyers 
   
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I actually e-mailed forgeworld about this. Unfortunately, I cannot find the email. The reply was, unlimited range and requires line of sight. Take it as you will.

The rest of the part is covered in the rules. In order to use it you must still be able to shoot, so if you are embarked in a Falcon, you cannot use it.

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Ios

Speaking of which, embarked on a Falcon and using the night-fighting missile?

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Buffalo, NY

Can't do it. If you cannot shoot (for whatever reason), you cannot use the strike.

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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Okay shameless necro-bump but I'd rather not start another thread. So...

Does the target get a cover save? Specifically I targeted an obscured Vindicator. The power appears to have no range mechanic - but does it still need line of sight? And if it does what happens when it's obscured.
   
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Undead thread, undead thread, run aaaawwwwwwwayyyy....

No seriously, they do not like thread necromancy here and this one was dead for over a year. Please create a new thread to ask anyway, we would understand and be more then likely to provide you with more information that way. Particularly seeing rules can be adjusted and changed over time, through release of additional codex's or FAQ's, so the information already found within older codex's might no longer be accurate. There are people would would just skim, not realizing how outdated the information is, and then walk away with answers that are no longer valid.

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JinxDragon wrote:
Undead thread, undead thread, run aaaawwwwwwwayyyy....

No seriously, they do not like thread necromancy here and this one was dead for over a year. Please create a new thread to ask anyway, we would understand and be more then likely to provide you with more information that way. Particularly seeing rules can be adjusted and changed over time, through release of additional codex's or FAQ's, so the information already found within older codex's might no longer be accurate. There are people would would just skim, not realizing how outdated the information is, and then walk away with answers that are no longer valid.



I understand, however since this is an extension/addition to an old thread and not a bump it follows forum rules for posting on old threads. Also there are no FAQs that address this and nothing in the rest of this thread is invalidated by newer rules. 99% sure anyway.
   
 
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