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What is the best equipment for squads of 8 nobs,, not bikers
im thinking 2 claws painbot, waaagh banner, boss pole, 5 big choopas all cybork, all eavy armor, and some guns for alocation
I was also looking at normal choppas, they, statistically can do the same amount of damage as guys with big choopas,against t4 guys, which is most

My Preference:

Nobz, Cybork Body, Stikkbombz, 'Eavy Armour
Painboy, Dok's Tools, 'Urty Syringe, Grot Orderly
Nob 2, Power Klaw, Slugga, Waaagh! Banner, Bosspole
Nob 3, Power Klaw, Slugga
Nob 4, Big Choppa, Shoota Rokkit, Ammo Runt
Nob 5, Choppa, Shoota Rokkit, Ammo Runt
Nob 6, Choppa, Shoota Schorcha
Nob 7, Big Choppa, Slugga
Nob 8, Choppa, Slugga

I stopped taking a bunch of Kombi-schorchas because I generally don't shoot before assaulting anymore since casualty removal has prevented my Nobz from assaulting and gaining that 6+D6" of movement and leaves them open to my opponent's fire too many times. The Kombi-Rokkits are for attempting to open transports before assaulting. I also roll from bottom to top when placing wounds.

Gorfang EadSplitta wrote:What is the best equipment for squads of 8 nobs,, not bikers
im thinking 2 claws painbot, waaagh banner, boss pole, 5 big choopas all cybork, all eavy armor, and some guns for alocation
I was also looking at normal choppas, they, statistically can do the same amount of damage as guys with big choopas,against t4 guys, which is most

I would drop the 'eavy armor for the reasons I described on the other threads, but you disagree on that with me anyways

I usually bring two or three klaws, three big choppas and fill all other slots with regular choppas. The additional attack is quite nice when you are in combats you don't want to be, like against terminators or honor guard variants, as well as tarpits of guardsmen, gaunts or boyz. If you know you are not goint to need those extra attacks, simply have them die first.

Another thing I have learned to value is adding a second boss pole to the mob. Nobz rarely have a higher ld than 7, and an unlucky stroke of dice can easily kill your nob carrying that boss pole around. So rather than one gun, I add a second boss pole to one of the big choppa nobz(the first one goes on a klaw nob). Ironically, that one model has performed ridiculous last-man-standing actions, like killing a squad of eldar warwalkers or 10 veterans charging him all by himself without taking a wound. As he has killed over 100 guardsmen in only a few game after I built him, I named him Manslaughter

Otherwise I think you're all set.

8 Nob squads? Damn man.

I say forget the the wound shenanigans and I run all cybork, one Painboy, one PK, one big choppa w/ Waaagh! Banner, one big choppa w/ Bosspole, and the rest all Big Choppas. You get enough str 7 int 4 attacks to flatten most units. Plus in a multi-assault they just wreck parking lots!

General_Chaos wrote:I say forget the the wound shenanigans and I run all cybork, one Painboy, one PK, one big choppa w/ Waaagh! Banner, one big choppa w/ Bosspole, and the rest all Big Choppas. You get enough str 7 int 4 attacks to flatten most units. Plus in a multi-assault they just wreck parking lots!

You could just drop two big choppas, add a boss pole and one combi weapons instead, and you'd have a fully diversified unit. I also wouldn't skip on a second powerklaw, that's kind of the whole point of nobz. I really don't see a point in what you're suggesting.

Maybe your error comes from "You get enough str 7 int 4 attacks to flatten most units.". 24 big choppa attacks vs 10 tac marines would cause 16 hits, 13 wounds, 4 casualties. Add the dok for a fith one and one PK for two more. You fail to even take down a unit of 10 MEQ, if those MEQ are purifiers, khorne berzerkers or just a unit with a PF, that might as well cost you your nobz.

My opinion is just that MY opinion. Jizmah go troll somewhere else, I know you think your the end all be all Ork player but people just dont come here to hear what you have to say. Find another bridge.

Just give them all Kombi-Skorchas and put them in a Trukk. Mini Burna-wagon, but faster and with more powerful burning, once a game. Then, when you've unleashed the inferno, you can hop out and krump something with the Nobz.

General_Chaos wrote: My opinion is just that MY opinion. Jizmah go troll somewhere else, I know you think your the end all be all Ork player but people just dont come here to hear what you have to say. Find another bridge.

I don't know what you're talking about but the Jidmah has a point. Big choppas are not power weapons. Even one more PK is going to really up the killing power of the nobs unit. Plus, the added strength goes a long way for cracking vehicles and forcing instant death on T4 multiwound models. Also, taking mostly normal choppas on nobs kind of defeats the purpose of taking them in the first place. If you want tons of normal attacks, just go with a mob of slugga boys.

Heck, most people I've see take at least 3 or more PK in an 8 nob group, with almost all the rest packing big choppas. His recommendation seemed kind of modest to me.

But that's my opinion, I'm still kinda new to orks myself but that's what I've usually seen work best.

so this is my idea
all cybork
all but painboy eavy armor, you cant give him it
all stkkbombz, why not 8 points
painboy orderlie
nob w/ banner, claw
nob w/ bp and claw
nob w/ big choppa and bp
nob w/ big choppa
nob w/ big choppa and shoota skorcha
nob w/ choppa
nob w/ choppa and shoota scorcha

General_Chaos wrote: My opinion is just that MY opinion. Jizmah go troll somewhere else, I know you think your the end all be all Ork player but people just dont come here to hear what you have to say. Find another bridge.

As soon as your opinion turns into bad advice, it's not just your opinion anymore. I'm not telling you how to play your game, but I am going to point out obvious flaws in your way of playing, if you tell others to play the same way as you do.

A forum is a place for discussion per definition. If you don't like your opinions being discussed, don't post them on a forum.

At the same time, this forum provides technical means to easily ignore all my posts. If you don't want to read them, I suggest you use that function. I will not stop posting because you don't like me disagreeing with you though.

There is no love orkmoticon

Take it easy. More importantly if someone comes on and rebuts your claim, it is a little too easy to shout troll.
We want a nice clean, fair argument, based on facts and not getting personal.

So not going for wound allocation causes you to lose nobs far to easily for their cost, especially given the available low point upgrades, then big choppas lose an attack but can not even break armour they have their place but how to deal with armour?
Discuss the merits more of your particular choice, or how they have faired for you, rather than going personal, please

Anyway I'll start you off. Wound allocation is pointless, you give the example of purifiers, they have force weapons, 50% of armies have grey knight force weapons, yes 50% of armies are grey knights.
You can allocate two instant kill wounds to one model, then only one model gets the chance of being removed, if due to wound allocation you had to give it to two then two models may get removed.