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Hello this is my new skaven list.

Lord
Grey seer 275
Dispel scroll 25
Enchanted shield 10

Heroes
Deathmaster snikch 270

Warlock engineer 125
Lvl2 85
Dispel scroll 25

Warlock engineer 125
Lvl2 85
Dispel scroll 25

Warlock engineer 100
Lvl1 50
Warpmusket 15
Warlock optics 20

Core
30 Clan rats 220
Shields 15
Musician 4
Standard bearer 8
Clawleader 8
Poisoned wind mortar 65

30 Clan rats 220
Shields 15
Musician 4
Standard bearer 8
Clawleader 8
Poisoned wind mortar 65

20 Night runners 148
Nightleader 8

30 Stormvermin 340
Musician 5
Standard bearer 10
Banner of swiftness 15
War banner 35
Fang leader 10
Doom-flayer 55

Special
30 Plague monks 275
Standard bearer 10
Gleaming pennant 5
Banner of swiftness 15
Standard of discipline 15
Banner of eternal flame 10
Bringer-of-the-word 10

Warplock jezzails 70
Sharpshooter team 10

2 Rat ogres 88
Packmaster 8

Rare
Doomwheel 150

Warp lightning cannon 90

I don't know if you have been told this, but you need to take out the upgrade costs of the models, only put the total points for the unit.

Big Mek Grodclog Mekgrim wrote:I don't know if you have been told this, but you need to take out the upgrade costs of the models, only put the total points for the unit.

o you mean just put the points in total of the units

Would this be a list any good to play whit ?
ps: not wanne chance my doomwheel for an other warp light cannon. Model is just to cool and it can do some funny stuff.


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bieren wrote:Hello this is my new skaven list.

Lord
Grey seer 275
Dispel scroll
Enchanted shield

Heroes
Deathmaster snikch 270

Warlock engineer 125
Lvl2
Dispel scroll

Warlock engineer 125
Lvl2
Dispel scroll

Warlock engineer 100
Lvl1
Warpmusket
Warlock optics

Core
30 Clan rats 220
Shields
Musician
Standard bearer
Clawleader
Poisoned wind mortar

30 Clan rats 220
Shields
Musician
Standard bearer
Clawleader
Poisoned wind mortar

20 Night runners 148
Nightleader

30 Stormvermin 340
Musician
Standard bearer
Banner of swiftness
War banner
Fang leader
Doom-flayer

Special
30 Plague monks 275
Standard bearer
Gleaming pennant
Banner of swiftness
Standard of discipline
Banner of eternal flame
Bringer-of-the-word

Warplock jezzails 70
Sharpshooter team

2 Rat ogres 88
Packmaster

Rare
Doomwheel 150

Warp lightning cannon 90

1. Your Grey Seer can't have an Enchanted Shield; he can't have any magic armor at all.

2. You definitely want to grab a Chieftain BSB, loaded with the best protection you can get him. The re-rolls on LD checks will save your units.

3. You Stormvermin and Plague Monks can only have 1 magic banner each.

4. At 2,500 points, your 2 Rat Ogres will probably not do a whole lot. Same with 3 Jezzail teams.

5. You can only have 1 dispel scroll per army now.

6. Your general (the grey seer) needs a ward save.

streamdragon wrote:1. Your Grey Seer can't have an Enchanted Shield; he can't have any magic armor at all.

2. You definitely want to grab a Chieftain BSB, loaded with the best protection you can get him. The re-rolls on LD checks will save your units.

3. You Stormvermin and Plague Monks can only have 1 magic banner each.

4. At 2,500 points, your 2 Rat Ogres will probably not do a whole lot. Same with 3 Jezzail teams.

5. You can only have 1 dispel scroll per army now.

6. Your general (the grey seer) needs a ward save.

À ok lot of work then to chance it ty for al info

Think i go for more jezzail teams and drop THE ogres

Take a condenser on 1 engineer and a DOOOOOOOMrocket on the other. Drop the level 1. I tried that. It was never that effective.

Up the rats to 50 and drop the champs. You don't need them. And before anybody says challenge fodder, your characters all have verminous valour.

Nightrunners aren't worth it. I would rather have 2 blocks of 8 gutter runners with slings and poisoned attacks.

Up your stormvermin to 40 and take the STORM BANNER!

Plague monks are only worth taking if you have a furnace IMO

Drop the jezzails. They are far too fragile.

As are rat ogres. I am taking a token unit in my army. But my army is rocky horror themed and the rat ogres will be in gold hot pants.

Rare is ok. I would prefer to have a hellpit and 2 cannons myself though.

thedarkavenger wrote:Up the rats to 50 and drop the champs. You don't need them. And before anybody says challenge fodder, your characters all have verminous valour.

I think you misunderstand how skaven use challenge fodder. The idea isn't to accept a challenge against a fighty hero, because as you said characters have Verminous Valour. The idea is to issue a challenge against a fight hero, to reduce the number of models he can kill in a single turn. It allows you to keep your block around longer, as less models die.

streamdragon wrote:I think you misunderstand how skaven use challenge fodder. The idea isn't to accept a challenge against a fighty hero, because as you said characters have Verminous Valour. The idea is to issue a challenge against a fight hero, to reduce the number of models he can kill in a single turn. It allows you to keep your block around longer, as less models die.

I never really looked at it that way. Either way, slaves get killed in droves. (I run lots of slaves if it wasn't clear)

Ah, fair enough. I rarely shell out the 4pts for a Pawleader, only because few armies I face on a regular basis run combat heroes; most are casters. Plus... 50 slave blocks can afford to lose a few more than 30 rat blocks of Clannies or Stormvermin.

Basically, if the enemy hero kills 3 slaves, you broke even on the pawleader. If he kills more than that, better to have thrown the pawleader on him.