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While assaulting a Stormraven during out last game, a question arose regarding Kharn the Betrayer. The vehicle in question had not moved in its turn, making all the attacks autohits. However, he has a rule that in any CC he will hit a friend while rollin a 1.

When no dice are rolled, is the rule ignored and he attacks and hits as normal? Or do I roll the dice just to see if he will splatter a friend that is part of the combat?

You wouldn't roll.

Was the Stormraven Imm? If so, then Auto hits.
But if it's a skimmer that did not move, he has to roll a 4+ to hit, and 1's should hit his unit.

Ray Age wrote:Was the Stormraven Imm? If so, then Auto hits.
But if it's a skimmer that did not move, he has to roll a 4+ to hit, and 1's should hit his unit.

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Since when do you have to roll a 4+ against a Skimmer that hasn't moved???


You've not moved, its autohits.

Kharn always hits on 2+ according to his rules. Would that mean his rule supersedes any rule in regards to movement? Just figured I would toss that in there since we're on the subject.

He auto hits, AND hits on a 2+

So no need to roll

Cool, that had been a contention in a game I was playing. I swore up and down it didn't matter because Kharn was just too much of a badass to care whether the vehicle had moved... I showed my opponent the rule and he said the vehicle movement rule overruled Kharn rule. I gave in as it was a friendly game but I know in my heart I was right.

Sarpedon_702 wrote:Kharn always hits on 2+ according to his rules. Would that mean his rule supersedes any rule in regards to movement? Just figured I would toss that in there since we're on the subject.

I know it says somewhere that only v things that have a WS does he hits on 2+

THE_GODLYNESS wrote:

Sarpedon_702 wrote:Kharn always hits on 2+ according to his rules. Would that mean his rule supersedes any rule in regards to movement? Just figured I would toss that in there since we're on the subject.

I know it says somewhere that only v things that have a WS does he hits on 2+

I'm pretty sure that's just the Wolf Tooth Necklace. kharn is billy badass.

Indeed he is. Hopefully with chaos being upcoming (rumoured an all) he stays badass and maybe gets more so.

THE_GODLYNESS wrote:

Sarpedon_702 wrote:Kharn always hits on 2+ according to his rules. Would that mean his rule supersedes any rule in regards to movement? Just figured I would toss that in there since we're on the subject.

I know it says somewhere that only v things that have a WS does he hits on 2+

Yup, under the "Gorechild" rules. "Against models with a WS value, Kharn's close combat attacks always hit on a 2+." So he would still need 4+ vs a vehicle that moved (aside from walkers). 1s would still hit friendlies though.

If you have the first priting, check out the errata.

nosferatu1001 wrote:If you have the first priting, check out the errata.

Nope, I don't get it. What have I missed?

The first printing didn't specify "against things with a WS". GW errata'd it in the FAQ and fixed it in later printings.