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I know nothing about planes and jets.

I ask you, what are the "grill or screen-like" things on the Dakkajat model?

I see them modeled on at different angles. I assume they must have something to do with controlling speed.

What are they?

Are they modeled in the correct locations?

Are there any underlying "jokes" that a knowlegable aviation enthusiest might see in this model? Afterall it is an Ork vehicle.

IMHO the model is too symetrical.

Also, not enough duct-tape. But greenstuff can fix that.

I know this seems like it should be in the modeling forum but I wasn't quite sure and I didn't want to double post.

Thanks,

Mr. Afraid of flying

They are usually for altering altitude and/or breaking. Them being grills doesn't make a lot of sense though.

Ork jets take design cues from early fighter jets such as the Mig-15, F-84 Thunderjet, F-86 Sabre and Ta-183, and WWII-era ground attack planes like the Il-2 Shturmovik or the Ju-87 Stuka.

The 'grills' you see are airbrakes, used by divebombers like the aforementioned stuka or the TBF Avenger to lose some speed before diving in for the kill. Other bits are 'hommages' to other planes, such as the landing skid, borrowed from the german rocket fighter Me-163.

Strange as it may seem, I'd say the ork bommer is the first 40k aircraft to actually make some sense.

As with the above poster i have to say yes there airbrakes. However if your refering to the grill screens on the front of the fuselage then there air intakes. Plain and simple.

Oh and to the above poster i have to point out the valkerie-it makes sense.

Circled part are air brakes used in conjunction with the flaps being down. If just the Brakes were up the aircraft would decend.

I have to agree that the Valk comes second best if not equal... Actually both models, Valkyirie and Bommer, share a crucial problem: There's no way the flat square chunks they have for wings can generate lift. But I take it's a liberty the designers took in order to make the models sturdier and easier to assemble.

Agent Tremolo hit it right on the head. Those "grills" on the wings are in fact dive brakes. They help slow the aircraft down when it make a dive bombing run on a target to make the drop more accurate. Probably the most extreme real life version of these would be on the SBD Dauntless dive bomber the US Navy used in WW2:

Thanks. Now I know and knowing is half the battle.

So it's safe to say that to have the airbreaks "open" would look best on a bomma.

"Closed" would look best on a Dakkajet?

DeffDred wrote:Thanks. Now I know and knowing is half the battle.

So it's safe to say that to have the airbreaks "open" would look best on a bomma.

"Closed" would look best on a Dakkajet?

Looking at the pictures in the WD with the rules for them, it looks like there's a way to build the wings without them if you're building the DakkaJet.

One thing I'm curious about is if there is a third set of guns included in the kit for the upgrade you can buy for the DakkaJet.

Agent_Tremolo wrote:I have to agree that the Valk comes second best if not equal... Actually both models, Valkyirie and Bommer, share a crucial problem: There's no way the flat square chunks they have for wings can generate lift. But I take it's a liberty the designers took in order to make the models sturdier and easier to assemble.

Dont try to apply logic to orks, it just dosent work

The ork bommer comes with an anchor. Any more questions on ork logic?

The ones on the rear fuselage are the normal air brakes, the bomber also has dive brakes in the wings as others have mentioned.

I actually found it rather hilarious that the dakkajet entry talks about the Orks disdain for the rules of aerodynamics, when the new kit is the only one GW have ever produced that would even feasibly work...

Zathras wrote:

Looking at the pictures in the WD with the rules for them, it looks like there's a way to build the wings without them if you're building the DakkaJet.

One thing I'm curious about is if there is a third set of guns included in the kit for the upgrade you can buy for the DakkaJet.

The kit comes with 3 sets of guns, plus the grot guns. The first set are the "chin" guns seen on the fuselage, the second set are part of the angle attachment to make the wings fold up (or down if your crazy) and the third take the place of the airbrakes.

Jadenim wrote:The ones on the rear fuselage are the normal air brakes, the bomber also has dive brakes in the wings as others have mentioned.

I actually found it rather hilarious that the dakkajet entry talks about the Orks disdain for the rules of aerodynamics, when the new kit is the only one GW have ever produced that would even feasibly work...

To be fair, the Orks could have made it aerodynamic purely by accident. That's pretty much how all their stuff is created.

Agent_Tremolo wrote:I have to agree that the Valk comes second best if not equal... Actually both models, Valkyirie and Bommer, share a crucial problem: There's no way the flat square chunks they have for wings can generate lift. But I take it's a liberty the designers took in order to make the models sturdier and easier to assemble.

The Bommer's wings aren't flat, actually. They have a slight, symmetric airfoil. Incidentally, this also means it can fly upside down pretty easily