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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman





London, UK

Just a quick question, is a 50 man conscript blob with attached Lord Commissar, gone to ground over an objective considered cheap?

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The Hive Mind





Point wise?
Or do you mean cheesy?

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Do you mean pointswise, or "thats a cheap tactic" wise?

EIther way, I'd say the answer is no. For the points you end up paying for a 50 man conscript blob and a Lord Commissar, you could get almost as many guardsmen with a regular platoon and a normal commissar. Not to mention they can take special,heavy, and power weapons, as well as having a higher BS and WS, and a much higher LD, all for 1 measly point extra. For example, 295pts either gets you...

1. a 50 man conscript blob, 1 Lord Commissar with Camo Cloak, PW, and melta bombs OR
2. A 30 man blob of guardsmen (with a barebones 30pt pCS for FRFSRF) that has 3 meltas, 3 PW sarges, 1 PW commissar that can't get singled out, and the benefit of orders, the ability to kill something with shooting, and still has stubborn to keep from running away. And if I drop the PCS from the equation (after all you still have to buy it to get conscripts) I could easily throw 3 autocannons in that blob as well.

Although those extra 20 conscripts may sound more helpful, think about it from this angle. They shoot like an ork, hit like a grot, and die like guardsmen. None of those are traits you want in an objective holder And since you have to take at least 2 infantry squads anyways, it usually means that conscripts aren't really worth it, which is sad because I love the idea of them.

If you're asking tactics wise, no, it wouldn't be considered cheap either I think. Unless you're playing tau or something, even the most average of melee units could pull that blob off an objective if they wanted to, and with 2 WS on the conscripts and no power weapons besides a guy that can get singled out, they can't really kill anything in return. Not to mention the moment the Lord Commissar dies they'll run in a hurry... Heck, even a scout sentinel could pull them off and then proceed to tarpit them the whole game (if it kills the Lord Commissar of course)

Like I said, I hate having to say that. I would use conscripts all the time if I could think of a good use for them...

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London, UK

Fair enough, thanks for the feedback, it was just something I thought of while I was flipping through the codex, I was wondering about feasibility.

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Penal legion squad. An overlooked unit in the ig codex. A good unit at holding objectives at cheap costs. I mainly play mech vets so the pls works great for the backfield objectives.

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Regular infantry blobs will do this job just fine, while also giving you the option to take heavy weapons to plink at stuff while holding the objectives.



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Never use conscripts without Chenkov, he turns them from godawful to sort of useful. Additionally Chenkov turns games into circuses of hilarity. Of course all it takes to end the hilarity is a single lucky shot with a blast weapon.

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