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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 22:02:54
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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anyone have any decent tactics to take down any of the above armies with 2 veteran squads, a valkyrie, and a CCS in an IG army?
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2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 22:07:35
Subject: Re:best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
Charleston, SC
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It depends. How many points are you talking about? Is that all you have in your army? What do the other lists that you are expecting to face look like?
Or...
Are you looking for more generic answers as to different strategies vs those races with the Imperial Guard (if not somewhat specific to what you have)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 22:12:09
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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i have a storm trooper squad of 5 but other than that,
that is all, the points cost is about 800-950 pt, and the other armies vary from 1000pts-something like 2200pts.
i have literally got no other guard units after my leman russ got trashed and now im barely surviving games...
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2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Please leave your message after the tone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/16 22:48:38
Subject: Re:best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'd say a good start would be have everyone at the same point level. There's no way to beat a 2250pt list with 800-900 points of IG.
Edit:
I feel you're going to need things like Leman Russes, a Manticore or 2, Hydras, Chimeras, etc.............
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 04:10:34
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Large blast templates
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javascript:emoticon(' '); 3,000 pointsjavascript:emoticon(' ');
2,000 points
265 point detachment
Imperial Knight detachment: 375
Iron Hands: 1,850
where ever you go, there you are |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 10:04:15
Subject: Re:best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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alarmingrick wrote:I'd say a good start would be have everyone at the same point level. There's no way to beat a 2250pt list with 800-900 points of IG. Edit: I feel you're going to need things like Leman Russes, a Manticore or 2, Hydras, Chimeras, etc............. right, i'd better hit the a cash machine then...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/17 10:14:10
2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Please leave your message after the tone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 10:35:23
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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martin74 wrote:Large blast templates
There are no blast templates
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7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 16:41:50
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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uhm, multiple rocket pods have blast templates
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2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Please leave your message after the tone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 16:45:33
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Perhaps some more infantry/troops.
Care to show the list you often use and the loadout of those squads? From there on we can perhaps help you a bit further.
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Overall Record W-L-D = 22-24-15
Bataviran 197th/222nd Catachan "Iron Wolves", arrogant, dedicated and ruthless!
Captain Detlev Vordon, regimental commander.
Colonel Vladimir Russki, regimental commander 222nd Catachan. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 16:49:55
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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The Hive Mind
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sierra 1247 wrote:uhm, multiple rocket pods have blast templates
No, they use blast markers. The only time template is referenced in the rules is for Flamer type weapons.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/18 17:29:21
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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rigeld2 wrote:sierra 1247 wrote:uhm, multiple rocket pods have blast templates
No, they use blast markers. The only time template is referenced in the rules is for Flamer type weapons.
fine, but does one word seriously matter?! Automatically Appended Next Post: my army normally revolves around this:
HQ.
CCS
plamsa pistol
power sword
melta gun
regimental standard
medipack
vox caster
Elites
storm trooper squad
bolt pistol
power sword
guardsmen marbo
Troops
2x veteran squads
3 meltagunners
plasma pistol
power sword
vox caster
Fast attack
Valkyrie
multi laser/lascannon
multiple rocket pod
( if i have enough money there may be a leman russ executioner thrown in as well.)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/06/18 17:36:31
2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Please leave your message after the tone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/18 17:38:40
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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The Hive Mind
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sierra 1247 wrote:rigeld2 wrote:sierra 1247 wrote:uhm, multiple rocket pods have blast templates
No, they use blast markers. The only time template is referenced in the rules is for Flamer type weapons.
fine, but does one word seriously matter?!
I was just pointing out what Jidmah alluded to. Also, yes it matters - "Lemme get my blast template." "Is it a template or a blast?" "It's a blast." Using the exact correct terms avoids confusion.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/18 19:01:41
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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rigeld2 wrote:sierra 1247 wrote:rigeld2 wrote:sierra 1247 wrote:uhm, multiple rocket pods have blast templates
No, they use blast markers. The only time template is referenced in the rules is for Flamer type weapons.
fine, but does one word seriously matter?!
I was just pointing out what Jidmah alluded to. Also, yes it matters - "Lemme get my blast template." "Is it a template or a blast?" "It's a blast." Using the exact correct terms avoids confusion.
yeah,this thread was for tactics, not what a blast/template is defined as.....
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2000pts IG. ( based on fallout US Army)
3000pts XIIth Legiones Astartes 8th Assault Company. (Pre heresy)
never in the field of human conflict, has so much been fired at so many, by so few.
My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, Commander of the armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions. Loyal servant to the true emperor Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Please leave your message after the tone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/19 18:59:56
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Fixture of Dakka
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sierra 1247 wrote:rigeld2 wrote:sierra 1247 wrote:rigeld2 wrote:sierra 1247 wrote:uhm, multiple rocket pods have blast templates
No, they use blast markers. The only time template is referenced in the rules is for Flamer type weapons.
fine, but does one word seriously matter?!
I was just pointing out what Jidmah alluded to. Also, yes it matters - "Lemme get my blast template." "Is it a template or a blast?" "It's a blast." Using the exact correct terms avoids confusion.
yeah,this thread was for tactics, not what a blast/template is defined as..... 
True but someone new reading this my get the wrong idea by complete accident. It needed to be corrected.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/19 19:17:20
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Sinewy Scourge
Grand ol US of A
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It is normally best to use proper terminology, it keeps things from getting complicated.
I would pick up 3 chimeras. Give each a HF. The vets need meltas and the CCS 3 plasma guns a plasma pistol and a medic. Turn the valkyrie into a vendetta.
After that Manticores will do the best for you IMO. Storm troopers are a nice suicide but beyond that...
Against, ork and nids you need the ability to supress mobs. HF and blasts will be ideal. Necrons and Tau need some serious AT firepower. I would throw in an astropath to be able to outflank a vendetta quickly and hit side armor. GK have a midfield edge so stay back and use the TLLC and multi-lasers to pop armor and infantry. Just a side note with nids, if they have stealers stay 24" away from either side.
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d3m01iti0n wrote:
BT uses the Codex Astartes as toilet paper. They’re an Imp Fist successor, recruit from multiple planets, and are known to be the largest Chapter in the galaxy. They’re on a constant Crusade, keeping it real for the Emperor and not bumming around like the other guys. They hate psykers and can’t ally with them. They’re basically an entire chapter of Chaplains. CC lunatics. What every Space Marine should aspire to be, if not trapped in a Matt Ward nightmare.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/19 20:26:13
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Akroma06 wrote:It is normally best to use proper terminology, it keeps things from getting complicated.
I would pick up 3 chimeras. Give each a HF. The vets need meltas and the CCS 3 plasma guns a plasma pistol and a medic. Turn the valkyrie into a vendetta.
After that Manticores will do the best for you IMO. Storm troopers are a nice suicide but beyond that...
Against, ork and nids you need the ability to supress mobs. HF and blasts will be ideal. Necrons and Tau need some serious AT firepower. I would throw in an astropath to be able to outflank a vendetta quickly and hit side armor. GK have a midfield edge so stay back and use the TLLC and multi-lasers to pop armor and infantry. Just a side note with nids, if they have stealers stay 24" away from either side.
The only problem with outflanking the Vendetta is you only get to fire 1 TL lascannon.
I prefer to start mine on the table.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/19 20:48:10
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Reverent Tech-Adept
Stevenage, England
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You'd be surprised how often semantics comes up in tactics discussions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/23 14:07:41
Subject: Re:best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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A bit of general help against Necrons, use artillery, lot's of artillery...
Open topped vehicles that a majority are skimmers will take a beating against Artillery, as well as infantry squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/23 14:13:33
Subject: best way to take out orks/necron/nids/tau/GK with IG?
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Painting Within the Lines
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The new overwatch rule helps out.
Multiple shots and blasts.
AP2 weapons work well.
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