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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 18:26:11
Subject: Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hi all.
Earlier I posted about wanting to put together a female orientated army that was not sisters of battle. In the end, I have decided to go for a daemon army, with a focus on slaneesh ( I think thats how its written) units. I don't mind other daemons in there much, but the daemonette's are my preferable focus.
So, Im trying to make the army 1500 points, and I was wondering what was the most cost-effective way to get to that number. I imagine it would involve the battleforce, but any hints, tips, and pointers on how to acheive this goal would be greatly appreciated, as knowiung what to buy before I do so will save me a heck of a lot of money if I picked wrong.
I don't mind the army being a little bit weaker if it means I can take my beloved daemonettes, so please don't tell me to convert to Khorne or something, the blood god has more than enough blood, and so any khorne stuff will be support, rather than the big focus of the army.
Thanks
PS, will an infantry heavy daemon army just be slaughtered, or can they get by allright with less of the giant daemons, and more troops?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 18:35:42
Subject: Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Do you play against Strike Squad spam GK regularly? If so, and the other player is a bit WAAC, AVOID DAEMONS.
Assuming you don't, Slaanesh armies are fast and get lots of attacks, whilst lacking in the toughness and strength departments. Battleforce isn't as useful as it seems for mono-Slaanesh, because you're still getting other units and paying for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 18:51:00
Subject: Re:Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Mutating Changebringer
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My advice would be not to play Daemons.
If you want an all female force go with Dark Eldar.
The models are far better. The army is better.
Daemons could be better in 6th but we don't know that.
I'd say wait. Wait for the new rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 19:04:04
Subject: Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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If you do decide to go with daemons, a keeper of secrets can be cool, I have watched my friends keeper of secrets just walk through squads of troops.
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Blood for the bloo... wait no, I meant for Sanguinius! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 19:07:23
Subject: Re:Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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DeffDred wrote:I'd say wait. Wait for the new rules.
I generally agree with this.
However, here is my advise,
If you're on a budget, or dont want to spend too much money, go easy with Fiends. They come in boxes of 1, and for £14, that makes it rather expensive for 3 units of 5.
Seekers on the other hand, come in boxes of 5, for £17. They are just as strong when you have between 10-15 of them, they also have great range, definately take some of these.
One problem i've come to recognise with slaneesh is the lack of anti-tank. Yes you have a lot of attacks and lots of potential to rend, but with low strength, you'll struggle to take out heavier tanks. To solve this, take two, possibly 3 Soul Grinders with Tongue, or Plegm.
Massed daemonette's are also good. Always take in squads of between 10 and 15. That way, casulties from first volley of shooting wont be to disasterous to the killing power. Costing 14pts per model is good too.
Anyway, thats just my two cents. It would really be worth waiting for the new edition to come out. only being two weeks away, for definate, isn't that bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 19:10:02
Subject: Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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Probably worth waiting to start getting models till after 6th ed comes out(relatively soon) just to make sure something doesn't change that would make something you bought not as useful anymore or something you didn't way better.
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Blood for the bloo... wait no, I meant for Sanguinius! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 19:29:10
Subject: Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Well, im not ultra-competative, and I play with a good mix of players, only know one grey-knight guy. My idea was, grab a battleforce, an extra unit of daemonettes, and extra box of seekers. I don't mind having one unit of khorne folk, and one unit of pink thingies in amongst the army for balance. But then that leaves me with whatever else I need for my remaining points, which is around 500-700. So, a HQ, and something else that i'd be missing most. Advice on those, would be great. So, to sum up, plan so far would get me.
20 Bloodletters
20 Daemonettes
10 pink horrors
10 seekers
What do I add, to make this a 1500 point army? What gap in things I need (Heavy support or whatever)is it missing, that I won't have to sell a kidney to afford.
Edit - Also, we will likely still be playing 5th edition for a good year yet, even if 6th comes out, as we are only a small club who play for fun, not a team that does tournaments
Fun is the goal, not being the absolute best of the best. But one thing I will say is there are lots of swarmy-armies, so any pointers on how to deal with that (Orks and such) would also be handy.
Thanks all
PS. Meh for dark eldar, just not a big fan of their look.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 19:59:43
Subject: Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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You going to need ranged anti-tank. DP with Mark of Tzeentch and Bolt would be desired if you cant get hold of a Soul Grinder
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 20:24:22
Subject: Re:Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Mutating Changebringer
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If you are really intent on the army being Slaanesh there is a very simple method of chaning the bloodltters.
Go to any 18+ video shop. Look in the novelty section. They sell toothpicks with um... male parts on them, that fit perfectly between bloodletter legs.
Then its just a matter of smoothing scales and clipping horns.
The same toothpics can be heated up and twisted to make trousersnake nurgling bases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 20:43:50
Subject: Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
Sioux Falls, SD
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Evileyes wrote:Well, im not ultra-competative, and I play with a good mix of players, only know one grey-knight guy. My idea was, grab a battleforce, an extra unit of daemonettes, and extra box of seekers. I don't mind having one unit of khorne folk, and one unit of pink thingies in amongst the army for balance. But then that leaves me with whatever else I need for my remaining points, which is around 500-700. So, a HQ, and something else that i'd be missing most. Advice on those, would be great. So, to sum up, plan so far would get me.
20 Bloodletters
20 Daemonettes
10 pink horrors
10 seekers
What do I add, to make this a 1500 point army? What gap in things I need (Heavy support or whatever)is it missing, that I won't have to sell a kidney to afford.
Edit - Also, we will likely still be playing 5th edition for a good year yet, even if 6th comes out, as we are only a small club who play for fun, not a team that does tournaments
Fun is the goal, not being the absolute best of the best. But one thing I will say is there are lots of swarmy-armies, so any pointers on how to deal with that (Orks and such) would also be handy.
Thanks all
PS. Meh for dark eldar, just not a big fan of their look.
For orks and MEQ and most vehicles at range several soul grinders can be great, a str 10 ap 1 assault 1 weapon for vehicles, a str 8 ap 3 assault 1 large blast weapon for troops. It is also a walker that is half Daemon half vehicle. I would say out of my friends Daemons army it is one of my favorites.
Flamers(they are tzeentch) are awsome a flamer template that wounds on 4+ and is ap1 destroys small squads.
You will need an HQ, theres one for slaanesh called a keeper of secrets, it is a fast melee MC that rips and tears through non-vehicles. There is also a named one called the masque, havent seen it in action but stat and rules wise it looks good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/17 21:40:51
Subject: Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Sister Vastly Superior
Colorado
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Deffdred that is the most amazing thing I have ever read on dakka. I would never do such a conversion but props to you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/18 13:07:34
Subject: Starting a chaos daemon army, looking for pointers.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Deffdread, you made me spit out my drink on my keyboard from laughing, so you owe me a new one xD
Yes, its a slaneesh themed army, but my daemon prince will still be wearing pants! Or more likely, I will be custom building a female version (So, daemon princess ftw  )
So, new revision, how does
20 Bloodletters
20 Daemonettes
10 pink horrors
10 seekers
The masque
1/2 daemon princes or soul grinder
sound? Awful? Or at least fairly usable
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