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I'm a relatively new player to DoC and after a somewhat disastrous game against Bretonnia I decided to give up all ambitions of using the majority of nurgles units minus nurglings (since they actually do what they supposed to do, unlike plaguebearers) and finally do what people keep telling me and use predominantly khorne. By the way when I say "disastrous game" I mean things like my bloodthirster was almost killed by exceptionally poor saving throw rolls on my part after one round of shooting from longbows and then was finished off with magic. So I'm starting from the ground up at 1k and we will see were it goes from there...

Heroes -

Herald of Khorne - 100pts

Herald of Tzeentch (Master of Sorcery) - 140pts

Or instead of the Herald of Tzeentch I could get the skulltaker if I want to have no presence in the magic phase, otherwise the herald will either take life, light, or beast.

Core -

39 Bloodletters (Full Command + Icon of Endless War) - 523pts

Not sure if I should split this into two units or leave it as one.

Special -

None

Rare -

3 Flamers - 105

3 Flamers - 105

973pts currently, not sure what to do with the left over 27pts as of the moment.

In higher point games I'm going to include some slaanesh units and more tzeentch units.

For bloodletters I've found 30 to be real solid.

You also don't have any protection for the Tzeentch herald.

I'd drop down to 29 letters plus herald, drop 3 flamers and add 19ish horrors. You picked 3 good lores for making bloodletters better and hororrs decent in combat.

t7 horrors make excellent anvils. I like to run 20-25 plus life herald as a bsb so usually +5 static with T7 and a 4++.

Light is good too. WS10, I10 solid add a -1 to hit and enemies likely need a 6 to hit you. WS 10 will allow a little more killing, but the Pha's can be boosted and will help out your letters if close enough.

Alright here is the modified list...

Heroes -

Herald of Khorne - 100pts

Herald of Tzeentch (Master of Sorcery) - 140pts

Core -

30 Bloodletters (Full Command + Icon of Endless War) - 415pts

Should this be run horde style?

20 Horrors - 240pts

I'm not sure if I should drop a horror for a banner or something.

Special -

None

Rare -

3 Flamers - 105

1000pts exactly. Once this is figured out completely I'll move on to 2k.

2nd list is top notch, what I would run at 1k. Go ahead and horde them out, you'll want those extra attacks, you should be hitting first and hitting hard, after a round of combat when you lose hatred, if your target is still standing you could reform to 6 wide ideally.

Meh, I would probably start 6 wide, but Horde is definitely an option.

Overall very solid list IMO. (the second that is)

Alright for 2k points is it worth taking a greater daemon? And if so which one, I've only really used bloodthristers (but I have one of each). Besides that the 2k list will probably have 30 Daemonettes (Full Command) 390pts and 10 more horrors 120pts, leaving 490 still available which will probably be spent on more heroes, special, and rare units.

2k list version 1 -

Heroes -

Herald of Khorne (Armour of Khorne, BSB) - 140pts

Herald of Tzeentch (Master of Sorcery) - 140pts

Herald of Slaanesh - 90pts

Blue Scribes - 81pts

Core -

30 Bloodletters (Full Command + Icon of Endless War) - 415pts

30 Daemonettes (Full Command) 390pts

30 Horrors (Banner and Musician + Icon of Sorcery) - 387pts

Special -

5 Flesh Hounds - 175pts

Rare -

5 Flamers - 175pts

1999pts

or

Lord -

Bloodthrister (Immortal Fury, Armour of Khorne) - 490

Or some other greater daemon.

Heroes -

Herald of Khorne (Armour of Khorne, BSB) - 140pts

Herald of Tzeentch (Master of Sorcery) - 140pts

Herald of Slaanesh - 90pts

Core -

30 Bloodletters (Banner + Bloodreaper + Icon of Endless War) - 409pts

20 Horrors - 240pts

30 Daemonettes (Banner + Alluress) 382pts

Special -

None

Rare -

3 Flamers - 105

1996pts

First one. I wouldn't take a Greater until at least 2500. But when you do, Bloodthirsters and Keepers are both awesomesauce in CC.

Thirsters and keepers are viable at 2k. I've used and seen both.

Once you hit 2200 GUO is very viable, (Balesword, Noxious Vapors.) even more so as more MC/MO/MI appear.

I tested the 1k and the 2k lists and won both games, however I'm beginning to dislike horrors as they have underperformed every game I've played with them and have worked better as a tar pit than a caster.

Which 2k list? The one with 20 horrors or 30? A level 1 of anything will have trouble casting.

Either way, they are pretty good as a tar pit with their 4++

Both lists they were a tar pit more than anything which isn't to say they were a waste of points its just that casting wise they did very little as opposed to combat and to me it seems like points better spent else were. Granted considering everything costs 12pts a model I guess that's just how it goes. In the 2k game I felt I was playing on defense with my casters while in the 1k I was not but the results were the same.

I have never lost a game with my modified 1k list but I have with my 2k once, this is after approximately 8 games. As far as the horrors go they are always a tar pit or perform well during the magic phase and make up for their points.