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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/22 06:07:13
Subject: 1500pts Vanilla Marines
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Ok, so, after an absolutely shoddy performance from my Vindicators tonight, I'm trying out something new.
Here's one of my potential 1500pt lists that I think might have some merit, and I'd like to see what you all think (Please note, that my Meta isn't very vehicle heavy.):
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Librarian in Terminator Armor w/ Storm Shield. Null Zone and Gate of Infinity.
Elites:
10x Sternguard. Sgt has a Power Fist and a Boltgun. Riding in a Rhino.
5x Thunder Terminators. Land Raider Crusader Dedicated Transport.
Troops:
10x Vanilla Marines. Missile Launcher and a Melta Gun. Riding in a Rhino.
10x Vanilla Marines. Missile Launcher and a Melta Gun. Riding in a Rhino.
Fast Attack:
1x Land Speeder, w/ Typhoon Launchers and a Heavy Bolter.
1x Land Speeder, w/ Typhoon Launchers and a Heavy Bolter.
-1500pts on the dot.
Just for a point of reference, this is the list I'm coming from (spoilered below)
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/22 07:28:44
Subject: 1500pts Vanilla Marines
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Like both lists alot.
Only thing I'd really suggest to improve the list is a combi weapon or two no the sternguard, but since they're not for everyone it doesn't really matter.
Really good list.
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Alaitoc eldar 1250 points
Space marines 2250 points
Bad moons 1500 points
Cadian and catachan 500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/22 11:12:58
Subject: 1500pts Vanilla Marines
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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I wouldn't take GoI if I was going to stick my librarian in a LR. I'd also swap a pair of the hammers for LCs. To be honest, my go-to guy for leading assault squads is my chaplain, but they get a bad rap here.
Otherwise looks quite good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/22 12:07:27
Subject: 1500pts Vanilla Marines
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I would give the librarian a power to help the assault termies, I guess that will be either the force sword and nullzone. Obviously Vulkan would nearly be a good idea in this list.
10 sternguard in a rhino is too many: it is a huge target; they still only fire twice out the rhino; there is a limit to how many awesome bolter rounds you'll need.
Try 6 or 7 with combiweapons mostly combimeltas, personally I would include a couple of heavy flamers as the other 2 rhinos are probably going tank hunting, a couple of full on meltas also works well as they ride in the rhino.
I would get some LCs in the assault squad to get some early attacks. This is not just an antiork measure, it is also to stop embarrassing things like being charged by tactical marines.
Extra armour on the raider is a really great upgrade.
Combimeltas on tactical squads are worth their points, when you get in range of a tank you'll like the second chance to damage it.
I would maybe keep the typhoons in one squadron, as only one model needs cover and it reduces kill points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/22 14:08:10
Subject: 1500pts Vanilla Marines
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Krazed Killa Kan
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For the libby try using avenger. I prefer all TH/SS and use avenger to thin out the squad I assault. TH may attack last but they are far better than the LC and the loss of the SS is not good. With 3++ and 2+ you can withstand a lot. Nothing is worse than losing termies to power weapons or klaws. Keep that invul save on everyone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/23 02:43:02
Subject: 1500pts Vanilla Marines
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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some good points. I suppose I could drop a few Sternguard, and stuff the points somewhere else.
I'm also tempted to take out a sternguard and the fist in the Sternguard Squad, demote the libby to a non-termie armor, and take another Landspeeder Typhoon to increase my long range fire support. In that way, I can spread the pressure of what they need to shoot from the Land Raider / Termies over to both the Termies and the Sternguard, since I plan on having them work in concert. (Hellfire Rounds to soften up everything from mobs to MCs, the Thunder Hammers to finish them off, and keeping the Librarian safely away from the combat to keep Null Zone up.)
So my list would be:
Libby w/ Pistol, Null Zone, GoI
5 Thunder'nators riding a LRC.
9 Sternguard w/ a Rhino
2x 10 Tactical Squads w/ ML and MG, Rhinos for Rides.
3x individual Land Speeder Typhoons, w/ HBs.
1500pts on the dot.
(I'm finishing painting up the last Termie now for a 1500pt Tournie tomorrow. I figure a LRC and Termies should give more reliable killing power overall than the Vindicators, especially since, apparently, blast weapons don't get BS reduced in the next book. So this List may be decent/good in the next book, too.)
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/23 04:52:35
Subject: Re:1500pts Vanilla Marines
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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I would even drop a couple more sternguard and give them all combi-meltas.
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Empire 5500 Points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/23 05:01:40
Subject: 1500pts Vanilla Marines
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Don't have the combi-melta models for the combi-meltas, or i'd be all over that like a pig on slop.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/23 07:42:06
Subject: 1500pts Vanilla Marines
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Screaming Shining Spear
Australia
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Second list looks better. Let us know how the tourney goes.
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Alaitoc eldar 1250 points
Space marines 2250 points
Bad moons 1500 points
Cadian and catachan 500 points |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/06/23 08:32:41
Subject: 1500pts Vanilla Marines
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Will do.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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