Dark Angels 750 pts Tourney List - Please Help

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**Timmy149**

Hi Guys,

I need your help for an 750 point list for a tournament next week and i have two choices of list. If you can give any feedback that would be great.

Option 1:

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Option 2:

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Thanks Guys!!!

**TheMostWize**

Do you have other unit options? Or is that all that you have access to? I think these lists lack killing power.

List 1 has too many points spend on that command squad for only being marines with a 3+ save. They are taken out easily by dedicated close combat squads or long range fire power.

List 2 personally I like librarians but at such a small points game you have to think about what your opponents might be bringing.

I think the points could be better spent on say Belial then add in a deathwing squad with TH/SS because this tourney will played in 6th edition and if the rules change as they are expected it seems TH/SS terminators will even harder to kill. This is an assumption but if it is true adding them in changes how your enemy tries to deal with the army.

Here is a quick list I put together for 750. I am by no means a master list maker but I think it would be a little bit tougher to deal with.

+++ No Name (740pts) +++
+++ 750pt Dark Angels 4th Edition (2007) Roster (Standard) +++

Selections:

+ HQ + (130pts)

* Belial - Master of The Deathwing (130pts)
Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield

+ Troops + (610pts)

* Deathwing Command Squad (Troops) (290pts)
Cyclone Missile Launcher, Deathwing Apothecary, Deathwing Company Standard Bearer, 4x Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield
* Sergeant (43pts)
Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield

* Tactical Squad (135pts)
Rhino
* 4 Tactical Marines (100pts)
Meltagun
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword

* Tactical Squad (185pts)
* 9 Tactical Marines (185pts)
Meltagun, Missile Launcher
* Veteran Sergeant
Bolt Pistol, Chainsword

Combat squad the 10 man unit. Park the ML on an objective in your DZ and fire away. Use the terminators as cover for the other marines. Use the Melta gun in the rhino to try and get a quick kill on enemy armor before it gets glanced to death. This army really focuses on the fact that the terminators squad is super tough. You are getting as many models on the table as your first list but you now have a unit that can take a beating. Just my 2 cents.

Oh and you shouldn't post specific point costs for items just the final unit cost. At least that is my understanding this will keep GW from complaining!

**Red_Lep**

TheMostWize wrote:Do you have other unit options? Or is that all that you have access to? I think these lists lack killing power.

List 1 has too many points spend on that command squad for only being marines with a 3+ save. They are taken out easily by dedicated close combat squads or long range fire power.

Azrael grants all models in his squad a 4+ Inv. save.

**TheMostWize**

Azrael grants all models in his squad a 4+ Inv. save.

You are absolutely right he does I forgot about that. Thank you for pointing that out.

That being said... I still stand by the fact that the Terminators for the points are more effective.

Again thanks for pointing that out Red.

**captain collius**

I like list two but you need more Firepower. Do you have any landspeeders or predators if so get them out you are going to need them.

if you can take out the extra libby the plasma pistol and flamer and replace with 2 HB/typhoon speeders.

**Timmy149**

Unfortunately I don't have any speeders or preds, and as this is a young bloods tourney Id like to stick to non OP units. (ie: great and fighting but can actually die) I could use list 1 but replace Ezekiel with Azrael so the army benefits from his extra stuff, and the fact that he has 6s6 attacks on the charge. I did consider using the termies but they are a pain as the last four or five times I have used them they have teleported off the board and died. I just think termies in that load out could be considered unsporting. Then again, the use of azrael can be simIlar

**MFletch**

They are both not very competitive lists. Marines struggle at this points cost, then DA is really expensive anyway.
Deathwing would work well, I understand if you didn't want them.

Otherwise the plain librarian is not a good choice, the powers are average and ld9 is not high enough.

Azrael is expensive but should be all right, probably go with the first list.

**Timmy149**

Thanks!

**Timmy149**

are terminators without belial viable?

**nolzur**

Timmy149 wrote:are terminators without belial viable?

Terminators without Belial are elite instead of troops, the biggest difference being that you cannot take a squad with apothecary and standard.

Also, as a note to the guy saying that terminators just fall off the board, you do know that you don't have to deep strike them in, right? I actually have a lot of success foot-slogging terminators in my DW army.

I don't really think anyone will be complaining that azrael is unsporting, his points costs make him equivalent to a squad of termies, and a 5-man termie squad is a lot more useful.
Also, unless it's a combat patrol game, the other people should easily have stuff to counter your 2+ armor saves at 750 points, whether that is low ap shooting, lots of shots, or massed cc attacks from a horde of orcs. A 2+ armor save is nice, but if you take 2 or 30 of them a turn, you will fail some.
Point being, unless the tourney rules specifically say no 2+ armor saves, take some terminators. Deathwing is competitive, but in no way overpowered.

**Timmy149**

Thanks everyone for your help. Thanks to your help I came first in the tourney! The list is below for those who are interested.

HQ-Azrael-225

HQ-Command Squad-185
Chapter Banner
2 Power Swords
2 Meltaguns
1 meltabomb

Troops-Tactical Squad-130
Meltagun
Plasma Pistol
Power Sword

Troops-Tactical Squad-205
Power Fist
Missile Launcher
Flamer

TOTAL-750

By the way this was played with 6th ed rules, in case this helps to put into context

**captain collius**

Timmy149 wrote:Thanks everyone for your help. Thanks to your help I came first in the tourney! The list is below for those who are interested.

HQ-Azrael-225

HQ-Command Squad-185
Chapter Banner
2 Power Swords
2 Meltaguns
1 meltabomb

Troops-Tactical Squad-130
Meltagun
Plasma Pistol
Power Sword

Troops-Tactical Squad-205
Power Fist
Missile Launcher
Flamer

TOTAL-750

By the way this was played with 6th ed rules, in case this helps to put into context

Well this should work you are a bit short of long ranged firepower so move from cover to cover till you are in range.