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As the topic asks, who can use what psychic disciplines? I have the July WD with the chart but it doesn't have the official RULE stamp as far as I can see and a friend of mine is arguing that since no restrictions are present in the BRB that all psykers can use whatever they want. What's more is that the rulebook even gives an example of how a pyromancy power might manifest if cast by an ORK, which is contrary to what the WD said, which was that Orks only ever use their own powers. The bit about the pyromancy spell was just flavour text but since the rulebook doesn't offer any clarification it's all up in the air to me.

The codex FAQs are official documents, and contain correct discipline choices for each model allowed them.

Can't find any restrictions in the Ork FAQ.


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Nvm, it DOESN'T say they can use them powers whereas in the others it says they can, thanks

Can CSM Aspiring Sorcerers use Warp Charge 2 powers?
All MoT dudes seem to be level 2 by their own longhand definition.

Tz sorcs are mastery 2, so can use warp charge 2 powers.

Are Spirit Stones on Farseers now useless? Do they still allow an extra power per turn, even though FAQ lists a Farseer as Mastery lvl 1?

Spirit stones make farseers Mastery 2

Agamemnon2 wrote:The codex FAQs are official documents, and contain correct discipline choices for each model allowed them.

This, basically. If your codex doesn't address what you can use then I would fall back on the WD. If your opponent is being a d**k about it, throw him/her a bone and use your codex powers, proceed to win the game by tabling them in 3 turns, and don't bother playing against them again.

Ok here is my question about psykers. I am a nids player and I get that all my psykers are Lvl 1 (minus the Swarmlord) the FAQ says that I get to roll on the table for each power I have from my codex including purchased ones. So in this case since the HT comes with two am I then able to roll twice for new powers? If so I would assume that since I am level 1 I only get to use one a turn and that any roll of a power that takes 2 warp charges is pretty much a dead roll.

Am I off on this?

I *think* your mastery level is equal to however many spells you're allowed to cast. However, if your FAQ flat-out says that a HT is mastery 1 then you only get 1 discipline power. Best to stick with your codex powers and take 2.

Ok here is the issue with saying a HT only gets one since he is level 1.



Thats in the very start of my FAQ. And is the crux of the argument I am having with a friend. He tells me I only get 1 power since I am level 1. But this paragraph seems to lead me to think I get the extra power but can still only use one.

Broodlords, hive tyrants, and zoanthropes get two rolls for disciplines. Swarmlord gets 4, Doom gets 1. Tervigons get 1-3 depending.

Note that the rulebook says that you get one Lore power for each mastery level. HOWEVER, most codexes (via errata/amendments) give most models two Lore powers even if they are mastery level 1. This is the way it will be until new codexes are released with the new psychic system.


Edit: Two or more. Some armies can purchase additional powers, even though they can't use them all.

See this is what I thought was right, but I have a stubborn friend who tells me I am just trying to get something in my favor. I see it has having more options. Thanks for the responses

It seems you trade a codex assigned power for a roll which becomes another new power. You end up with same # of powers, but your Mastery lvl dictates how many charges you can spend per turn. So Mastery lvl 1 with two traded powers can only cast once per turn.

And where does it say Spirit Stones add a Mastery lvl? It is not in FAQ... and is playing the model as the codex reads negate Mastery Lvl? If so then yes that is the way to fo until new codex, but if you are still only allowed one Charge, its Eldrad or a one cast Farseer.

Skootnasty wrote:
And where does it say Spirit Stones add a Mastery lvl? It is not in FAQ... and is playing the model as the codex reads negate Mastery Lvl? If so then yes that is the way to fo until new codex, but if you are still only allowed one Charge, its Eldrad or a one cast Farseer.

BRB says you Mastery Level is equal to the number of powers you can cast.
A Farseer with Stones can cast two powers => he is Level 2.
You still have to buy powers, and can then trade in those powers for Disciplines.

It also specifies under Eldrad that his Mastery level 3 includes the bonus for Spirit Stones.