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Hello everyone,

Reading the description of the Psycic Shriek power in the BRB, it says that it does 3D6-target leadership hits, but if you use Weaken Resolve beforehand to drop leadership would the original or modified value be used?

If it can that would make the the Shriek somewhat ridiculous, getting 6+ wonds on average that ignore Toughnes, Armor and Cover saves. It would even work on Fearless and Stubborn, since the power is using just the leadership value and the unit doesnt take any moral or leadership tests.

You use the current value for any characteristic test, unless it specifically states otherwise.

Does it state otherwise?

Remember though the unit can take its 6+ Deny the Witch save against both!

Thank you for the reply.

So the combo will work work, since it just says minus leadership value.

calypso2ts you're right Deny the Witch make for roughly 25% chance to negate the combo, well one of the spells will get trough for sure, but you'll need them both to make it very potent, still around 75% chance to kill most MC outright or maul a squad of termies (unless they get some really lucky inv. saves)seems good if you can make it work since the shrieks range is rather short. If the squad has a psyker or a hood nearby it wont work and Runes of Warding or Rune Priests will shut it down outright. A positive is that it's easy to get Shriek since it's a primaris power, at least so no random rolls to get it.

I just imagined one shotting a Demon Prince or Carnifex with Shriek.

Heh.

EDIT: or a Hierophant Titan. Or a Bloodthirster.

Carnifex is only Ld 7 to begin with. Who needs WR?

Hierophants are immune to psychic powers with no S value....